[opencms-dev] Installation Problem

[Jean-Guillaume BIROT]

Well I think that the main opencms advantage is the freedom to use the data
access framework you want to (Entities EJBs for instance). But that's only
for creating database-like structured contents and integrated them in the
backoffice and template mechanisms. If you just need a powerful tools to
edit web content with a modular templating system, I think OpenCMS is really
a good choice.

You can create multiple bodys template in one XML file which you use to
create a new web page. For instance, you can have one template for the
abstract, one for the author, one for each paragraph, one for each pictures
...
The web writers just choose the "field" template they want to edit thru a
simple select box and can preview the final result with all the template you
give them access to. All those stuff without any java programming.

I think the "Virtual File System" data model is strong enough to cover
current CMS needs. The java programming framework is there to create your
own modules (for instance, to access a legacy database). and my own load
testing are very "encouraging".
ACS is quite slow because of his XSLT processing, OpenCMS is not. The
caching system is very good.
One of the most interesting feature (only in the CVS 4.5 version) is the
static export function wich allow you to auto-generate static pages from
your templates (I believe ACS gets one in a recent CVS version too).


When the group finish the Master Content Definition feature, I think that
OpenCMS will become the simplest and powerful CMS package of the whole
market :-).
Many companies don't need complex workflow system, just a 2-step validation.
With the offline project features (analog to a WIP or a staging space in
others CMS), you can do that.

-----Message d'origine-----
De : owner-opencms-dev at www.opencms.com
[mailto:owner-opencms-dev at www.opencms.com]De la part de Jun Yamog
Envoye : jeudi 7 fevrier 2002 11:44
A : opencms-dev at www.opencms.com
Objet : Re: [opencms-dev] Installation Problem


Wow thanks for the great info.

I have little experience on ACS Java, ACS Tcl I do have a ton of
experience.  I do have some more questions.

Jean-Guillaume BIROT wrote:

> with media), you still have to write Java modules. You don't have a
complex
> framework to access database (actually you have no framework at all for
> that). You have to use asbtract classes to integrate you backoffice forms
in
> the administration view but it's quite simple for a java programmer to do
> that (the news module is the thing to study). You don(t have to create
> special template for the content item list, just provide a java class to
> specify the content type class and the edit forms URLs.


I am looking at a Java based based solution similar to ACS.  Very strong
data model.  Sorry but no offense meant to the opencms community.  Are
there any other opensource projects out there similare to opencms with a
solid data model like ACS?  I really need to get a good alternative of
ACS since ACS Java is not doing well.


>
> Well, we have many troubles to use ACS on a Websphere Application Server
> which is definitely not the case with OpenCMS.
> And it works with MySQL not only with an expensive RDBMS such as Oracle.
>


I believe ACS does not playwell on other servelet containers and tools
since aD uses custom modified tools like Ant, junit, etc.  So the
vanilla Ant will not build ACS Java.  I think same goes with the servlet
since ACS Java uses its own modified XML parser.  Its also one of the
reason why I need to look for an alternative like opencms.


> Finally, let's say that OpenCMS Group is a real open-source group. Ars
> Digita seems to hide many features of their core technology to the
> open-source community. I'm afraid of their commercial politics for the
> future of the project.


Yup aD has a lot of history and politics in it.  They are going down now
they are now listed in f***edcompany.com.


> I dont know OpenACS because it's not a java technology software.


You should give it a try.  Aolserver is really very powerful and elegant
although its a real pitty that it is not famous.


>
> Hope this help.
>


It helps a lot thanks.


Jun