[opencms-dev] HTTPS pages

Ivan Biddles ivanb at scientology.net
Sat Jan 25 00:00:43 CET 2003


Hi Alex,

I'm still working on this issue.

I see in opencms.properties that I can use export=https_enabled "esp.
for images to prevent the dreaded webbrowser warning that tells you
something like "The page you are about to view uses secure and unsecure
data".

This seems to be fine except for one thing. The comment also says "The
marked resource is not exported".


Obviously I would want the images exported and simply referenced as http
or https according to the mode of the containing page.

Is this a mistake in the comment or is this the way it actually works
(i.e. not exported at all)? If images will NOT be exported, what is the
recommended way of getting around this as a problem?

Best wishes,
            Ivan


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-opencms-dev at www.opencms.org
[mailto:owner-opencms-dev at www.opencms.org] On Behalf Of Ivan Biddles
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:58
To: opencms-dev at www.opencms.org
Subject: RE: [opencms-dev] HTTPS pages

Hi,

I still have one problem with HTTPS in case anyone can give me some
guidance.

Although I am getting HTTP pages, the images for those pages are being
requested as HTTP and so I get warning messages from Internet Explorer
that the page has a mixture of secure and non-secure items.

Any ideas on this?

       Ivan


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-opencms-dev at www.opencms.org
[mailto:owner-opencms-dev at www.opencms.org] On Behalf Of Ivan Biddles
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 00:49
To: opencms-dev at www.opencms.org
Subject: RE: [opencms-dev] HTTPS pages

Hi,

To save heartache for others, there is a problem in Tomcat 4.1.12
specific to losing the fact that a page was requested using the https
scheme. (The request comes through as _http_ although it reports port
443.)

The Tomcat 4.1.18 release does not show these problems.

Best wishes,
              Ivan

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-opencms-dev at www.opencms.org
[mailto:owner-opencms-dev at www.opencms.org] On Behalf Of Ivan Biddles
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 00:37
To: opencms-dev at www.opencms.org
Subject: RE: [opencms-dev] HTTPS pages

Hi Alex,

We have been using the JK2 CoyoteConnector and today we tried switching
to the Ajp13Connector but still with no luck.

We had been thinking about trying the WarpConnector so thank you for the
recommendation. I'll let you know.

Best wishes,
             Ivan
 
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-opencms-dev at www.opencms.org
[mailto:owner-opencms-dev at www.opencms.org] On Behalf Of Alexander
Kandzior
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 00:31
To: opencms-dev at www.opencms.org
Subject: RE: [opencms-dev] HTTPS pages

Ivan,

that might in fact be an issue of your Apache / Tomact configuration. I
am suspecting the webapp connector. We at Alkacon use the "Warp" webapp
connector between Tomcat and Apache (1.3.x) and it works fine. What kind
of connector do you use between Apache / Tomcat?

Best Regards,
Alex.

Alexander Kandzior
Alkacon Software - The OpenCms Experts
http://www.alkacon.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-opencms-dev at www.opencms.org 
> [mailto:owner-opencms-dev at www.opencms.org] On Behalf Of Ivan Biddles
> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 9:30 PM
> To: opencms-dev at www.opencms.org
> Subject: RE: [opencms-dev] HTTPS pages
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have discovered something about my configuration that may 
> shed some light on my HTTPS and LinkSubstitution problems.
> 
> I am running Apache httpd 2 and Tomcat 4 on Linux. When an 
> https request comes into Apache it decrypts it and passes it 
> on to Tomcat as an _http_ request. 
> 
> Consequently, OpenCms thinks that the current scheme is http, 
> so it doesn't prefix the http page links on the page with 
> http:// because that would seem to be unnecessary. So the web 
> server (I guess) adds the http_S_// prefix and I'm stuck in 
> SSL from then on.
> 
> I'm posting this to help anyone in the future who sees these 
> symptoms and to ask if anyone has a similar configuration to 
> mine who is using SSL and who has overcome this ... maybe by 
> some Apache or Tomcat configuration setting.
> 
> Best wishes,
>               Ivan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-opencms-dev at www.opencms.org 
> [mailto:owner-opencms-dev at www.opencms.org] On Behalf Of Ivan Biddles
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 09:59
> To: opencms-dev at www.opencms.org
> Subject: RE: [opencms-dev] HTTPS pages
> 
> Hi Marian,
> 
> I do have my url_prefix_servername set, but it still doesn't 
> work for me the way I think it should.
>  
> I believe that there are some issues with LinkSubstitution, 
> and maybe someone from the OpenCms team could comment.
> 
> a. Looking at, for example, Amazon.com, it IS correct that 
> the images should come down as https, so that is OK.
> 
> b. Links to non-https pages (pages which have NOT been marked as
> "export=https") inside an https page should be resolved to 
> http://..., but are instead resolved to "https//...".
> 
> c. If you define a single page as "export=dynamic", it 
> resolves the reference to a stylesheet (which I have marked 
> as "export=true"), as .../opencms/opencms/... and then 
> doesn't find it. Given that it is "export=true" surely it 
> should be resolved as .../opencms/export/...
> 
> It seems that the link substitution needs to be different 
> depending upon the TYPE of item being linked (image, 
> stylesheet, or hyperlink), and particularly upon the value of 
> the export property defined for the linked item.
> 
> Can this be handled by changing the export rules, or is there 
> a latent bug in LinkSubstitution?
> 
> If the latter, I'd be happy to work out a resolution for it 
> and post that back to the team, but if the former I don't 
> want to waste any time on it.
> 
> Please let me know.
> 
> Best wishes,
>               Ivan
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-opencms-dev at www.opencms.org 
> [mailto:owner-opencms-dev at www.opencms.org] On Behalf Of Marian Kasala
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 00:56
> To: opencms-dev at www.opencms.org
> Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] HTTPS pages
> 
> Hi Ivan,
> 
> I faced same problem first but after additional setting in 
> opencms.properties started to work correctly:
> 
> Except of this line: 
> url_prefix_https=https://server_name:8443/${WEB_APP_NAME}/opencms
> 
> I set also:
> 
> url_prefix_servername=http://server_name:8080
> 
> Best Regards,
>    Marian Kasala
> 
> 
> AP Soft GmbH
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> Tel.: +421 32 7480056
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> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ivan Biddles" <ivanb at scientology.net>
> To: <opencms-dev at www.opencms.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:04 AM
> Subject: RE: [opencms-dev] HTTPS pages
> 
> 
> > OK, my problem was due to some strange issues with publishing and is
> now
> > resolved.
> >
> > However, I have an issue that I had asked about a few 
> months ago which 
> > is that once an HTTPS page is invoked, all the links in 
> that page that 
> > should go back to straight HTTP stay in HTTPS.
> >
> > So once you go into HTTPS you can never leave it. This is very bad, 
> > because depending upon browser settings you can end up with a dialog
> box
> > every time you click on a link that ought to be HTTP but is 
> now being 
> > invoked as HTTPS.
> >
> > "This page contains both secure and non secure items. Do 
> you want to 
> > display the nonsecure items ?"
> >
> > The problem seems to be with LinkSubstitution.getLinkSubstitution
> which
> > overrides the link resolution whenever the page is 
> currently in HTTPS 
> > mode.
> >
> > I need to release my site very soon, so I would really 
> appreciate some 
> > ideas  on this.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >             Ivan
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-opencms-dev at www.opencms.org 
> > [mailto:owner-opencms-dev at www.opencms.org] On Behalf Of Ivan Biddles
> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 19:06
> > To: opencms-dev at www.opencms.org
> > Subject: [opencms-dev] Images in HTTPS pages
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have some pages that are defined as "https". When you 
> click a link 
> > from an http page, the https page comes up, but the images do not 
> > appear.
> >
> > These images are the same ones that appeared successfully on the 
> > previous (http) page.
> >
> > When I click on the space where the image should be and select 
> > "Properties", the image name is defined as "https//....".
> >
> > I haven't been able to find a way to specify that the images should 
> > always be accessed via http. I have tried changing the 
> > ruleset.dynamic_externrules but without success.
> >
> > My page is defined as "export=https" and my images as "export=true".
> >
> > (My configuration is 5.0 RC1 on W2K and Linux, with Tomcat 
> 4.1.12 and 
> > MySQL 4.0.4)
> >
> > Does anyone know the right way to do this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >          Ivan
> >
> 
> 





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