[opencms-dev] How do i build the modules??

[Petr Hollay]

Hi Martin,

> i don't see why log4 is not designed for use in opensource frameworks ...
I didn't say this, but that Jakarta-Commons was designed for this purpose.

I don't like Commons-Logging for some reasons, but I'm not writing
opensource framework.
For me the best way is to maximize application peformance and minimize
effort of developers,
so we are perfectly happy with Log4J.

But, taken from this article "Think again" (I've read some time ago ;-):

> Remember that the initial goal of introducing the commons-logging wrapper
API was to protect
> your coding investment. If for whatever reason you decide to drop log4j in
favor of JDK 1.4 >
> (or the other way around)
> a simple string search-and-replace operation will do.
                       ^^^ this is the point.

This you can do only as developer of framework - OpenCms. Not as a user of
OpenCms,
and in opensource world it is perfectly valid to prefer another logging
package over Log4J.

If OpenCms will start to use Log4J, I'll be really happy.
But maybe not everybody will be happy with me,
and this is the only reason why to speak about use of Commons-Logging
package.

Btw: Log4J: +1 :-)

Regards
Petr


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-opencms-dev at www.opencms.org
[mailto:owner-opencms-dev at www.opencms.org]On Behalf Of Martin Poeschl
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 6:18 PM
To: opencms-dev at www.opencms.org
Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] How do i build the modules??


Petr Hollay wrote:
> Hi all,
> in this case I would have one proposal for OpenCms group - to move
> from proprietary logging framework to Jakarta Commons-logging package.
>
> This package has no real advantage over Log4J, but it's designed for use
> in opensource frameworks like OpenCms.

bot projects are hosted by apache so i don't see why log4 is not designed
for use in opensource
frameworks ...

> It allows to use many different logging frameworks, leaving this decision
> to users of framework (OpenCms) and to deploy-time.

maybe you should read http://qos.ch/logging/thinkAgain.html

Note in particular the section on class loader based dynamic discovery.

martin

>
> Regards
> Petr
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-opencms-dev at www.opencms.org
> [mailto:owner-opencms-dev at www.opencms.org]On Behalf Of Martin Poeschl
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 3:38 PM
> To: opencms-dev at opencms.org
> Subject: [opencms-dev] How do i build the modules??
>
>
> I would like to help to make the modules work with 5.0 .. but i can't find
> any build files for them ....
>
> Another point i found on the todo list is log-rotation ... why don't you
> use log4j?
> you'll get log-rotation, db-logging, mail-logging, ... for free ;-)
>
> martin
>
>
>