[opencms-dev] Re: External editing

[Tom Howe]

Personally I think that would be just fine! :)
My own opinion, and im not sure how widely accepted this would be, is
that any raw html should be highly controlled and therefore a little web
gui is probably the best thing for it. This would allow content editors
to add basic formatting (Headings/Bold/links) etc to their content.

The main layout HTML should then be created dynamically using
transformation templates like XSLT and edited in appropriate software
like xmlspy. Any code development would be done in the users preferred
tools/IDE.

This gives the flexibility of allowing developers to work in native
tools but prevents content editors creating content that isn't reusable.

Basically I think the scenario you have described is perfectly
acceptable but of course this is just my opinion.

Tom 

-----Original Message-----
From: opencms-dev-admin at opencms.org
[mailto:opencms-dev-admin at opencms.org] On Behalf Of Alexander Kandzior
Sent: 08 July 2004 09:03
To: opencms-dev at opencms.org
Subject: RE: [opencms-dev] Re: External editing


Actually having WebDAV in OpenCms would unfortunatly NOT allow using
Dreamweaver and other WYSIWYG tools "right away". 

Simple reason is that the pages in OpenCms (be it version 5.0.x or 6)
are
stored in an internal XML format. Since version 5.0.x does also store
the
real content in a different folder (/system/bodies) and the XML in 5.0.x
does not have any formal DTD or schema, I don't see how this should work
with eg. Dreamweaver. 

In version 6 there is hope as the xmlpage here has a defined DTD and
also
there are no more /system/bodies/ files. But in addition to WebDAV
support
"in general" we would need some kind of optional "WebDAV filter",
meaning if
a xmlpage is downloaded with webdav, it gets somehow modified from the
OpenCms internal XML representation to some kind of HTML that can be
edited
with tools like e.g. Dreamweaver. Then when the file is saved via
WebDAV,
it's converted again to the OpenCms internal XML format.

Of course other format like e.g. JSP and plain text (or the xmlpages if
you
use a XML editor) would directly benefit much from WebDAV support. 

Best Regards,
Alex.

Alexander Kandzior
Alkacon Software - The OpenCms Experts
http://www.alkacon.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: opencms-dev-admin at opencms.org 
> [mailto:opencms-dev-admin at opencms.org] On Behalf Of Ahmed Mohombe
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 10:11 PM
> To: opencms-dev at opencms.com
> Subject: [opencms-dev] Re: External editing
> 
> 
> M Butcher wrote:
> > Ahmed --
> > 
> > I'm reading the specification right now, and you are correct -- all
> > recent versions of WebDAV should support locking. That 
> would solve the 
> > major problem I was anticipating.
> Great !!! :). Having WebDAV in OpenCMS, would mean the end of 
> the poor 
> WYSIWYG Editors nighmare :). I mean, no embeded JS or ActiveX can 
> compete with Dreamweaver, or similar desktop Editors :).
> 
> Ahmed
> 
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