[opencms-dev] Development cycle building web sites using Opencms

Wed May 18 13:07:58 CEST 2005

Hi Brend, I'm very interested in that feature of Eclipse, but how do you configure the CVS and OpenCMS to work that way?

Thanks.
	David. 

-----Mensaje original-----
De: opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org] En nombre de Bernd Wolfsegger
Enviado el: miércoles, 18 de mayo de 2005 10:40
Para: The OpenCms mailing list
Asunto: Re: [opencms-dev] Development cycle building web sites using Opencms

Hi Pedro,

for JSP and Java development I recommend using Eclipse 3.1 (Newsest milestone 
version together with the latest milestone Webtools version).
It has also a builtin CVS functionality.
Than use the synchronize feature of OpenCms to get the files updated in the 
VFS.
The only disadvantage is that when restarting the server the settings for 
synchronisation are gone and you have to configure it anew.
Another disadvantage, you can synchronize one folder only (looks like a bug, 
because you can select many folders in the synchronisation configure 
dialog ...). So I do synchronize my complete module folder 
below /system/modules/. That works fine.
But maybe this will be solved better in a future release (hopefully in the 
final 6)

Kind regards, Bernd

On Wednesday 18 May 2005 05:29, Pedro Huitema wrote:
> You can also do your code development in Dreamweaver, and then copy paste
> into the text editor, and refresh the test page. At least that's what I
> do... Your template file shouldn't require that much hard code; my main
> file only uses a couple of tags. The tricky part is getting those
> navigation scripts to work, but like I said, you can still develop those in
> Dreamweaver and then copy paste into opencms...
>
> Pedro Huitema
> (360) 650-7229
> Pedro.Huitema at wwu.edu <mailto:Pedro.Huitema at wwu.edu>
> Web Services, MH182
> Western Washington University <http://www.wwu.edu/>
> Bellingham, WA 98225-9009
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org on behalf of Vasil Stefanov
> Sent: Tue 5/17/2005 5:06 PM
> To: 'The OpenCms mailing list'
> Subject: RE: [opencms-dev] Development cycle building web sites using
> Opencms
>
>
>
> Hello Pedro,
>
> My scenario is similar to yours. I have already developed my templates as
> html in Macromedia Dreamweaver. Now I want to leave the Dreamwaver static
> templating and migrate to Opencms tempating.
> The major problem that I have is how to develop the templates in the
> /system/modules/{package name}/templates
> Suppose I have in this case a template test-template.
> I add tags in this template using "Edit sourcecode" in Opencms Explorer.
> Then I save the template. Then preview in browser. I have a error. Then
> start the cycle from the beginning.
> But this process is very slow. The browser editor is poor. Also I can't
> version my source code (the code of template file) in versioning system
> like cvs. It is possible that I'm in wrong way. I think that the code of
> template is not what a cms is supposed. The cms is supposed for the content
> that this template will present to the visitors and authors. Am I right? Or
> may be I'm completely wrong.
> I looked at the templates provided by the alkacon documentation. These are
> enough complex to be developed in the manner I mentioned above.
> I expect to develop my templates and also a jsp pages (/sites/default) in a
> more sophisticated manner.
>
> So the main question is
> - How to develop for opencms outside the opencms Explorer?
>
> Is there a how-to document explaining such development cycle?
>
> The is a posting suggesting these alternatives:
> 1- use mozilla and the mozex extension to call an external editor of your
> choice.
> 2- Use the sync feature to sync with the fs of the server.
> 3- i think someone here in the list said they had developped web dav and
> they were thinking about contributing the code...
> 4- develop separately and then import your file, possibly change the type
> later...
>
> It looks cases 2 and 4 are right for me, but I don't know how to implement
> these cases.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
> [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org] On Behalf Of Pedro Huitema
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 2:03 AM
> To: The OpenCms mailing list
> Subject: RE: [opencms-dev] Development cycle building web sites using
> Opencms
>
> Vasil,
>
> As far as I am concerned, I initially develop my templates in Macromedia
> Dreamweaver (a standard html page), then once I am satisfied, I copy
> paste the template into OpenCMS and turn it into a jsp where I add the
> various tags for titles and properties.
>
> This allows me to create complex templates, all while keeping the
> development of individual pages very simple, which is what a CMS is
> supposed to do.
>
> I wouldn't count on the ability to create complex pages from the text
> editor...
>
>
> Pedro Huitema
> (360) 650-7229
> Pedro.Huitema at wwu.edu
> Web Services, MH182
> Western Washington University
> Bellingham, WA 98225-9009
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
> [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org] On Behalf Of Vasil Stefanov
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 9:07 AM
> To: opencms-dev at opencms.org
> Subject: [opencms-dev] Development cycle building web sites using
> Opencms
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm starting with Opencms 6.0 beta3.
> What is the development cycle when building web sites using Opencms?
>
> When I develop a web site I usually access the source code file with my
> editor, write changes and then preview the modifications in browser.
> In Opencms I don't know how to access the file with my favorite editor.
> It
> is impossible for me to develop a complex template using the web editor
> provided by Opencms (the browser editor).
>
> Or
>
> How can I access the Opencms vfs with external program (usually a text
> editor).
>
> Is there a driver for Opencms vfs. Is it possible to mount vfs as a
> directory to the real file system.
>
> Why is chosen the virtual file system and not the files a stored in the
> real
> file system? What is the advantage?
>
> Let's someone explain his development cycle when building web sites with
> Opencms.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
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