[opencms-dev] Several Languages - Howto

Thu Oct 20 17:51:58 CEST 2005

I think this is a editorial problem too.
Because in reality in a company, why should a French editor change the English 
content, if not requested todo?
All the employees in a company should work together not against each other :)

And well, it is simply not possible to restrict all possible vis versa allowed 
and not allowed things programmatically by permissions.

I think not all problems can be solved by programming or you will end up with 
hyper complex structures which are very hard to tend.

Kind regards, Bernd

On Thursday, 20. October 2005 18:22, Corsin Camichel wrote:
> Hi Uli
>
> Ok, got it
>
> Just tried it, and it did not work. Perhaps *@alkacon.de has any idea,
> would be interessting to know.
>
> Regards
> Corsin
>
> On 10/20/05, Uli Emmerich <2005-09-02 at web.de> wrote:
> > Corsin,
> >
> > sure, I mean an editing person. But I did not get your answer / solution
> > completely. Is it possible to arrange a multilanguage website with the
> > setup your suggested (one folder tree per language, siblings for
> > multilanguage content) and forbid for example the french editor to edit
> > the english content by user permissons (or not allow him / her to change
> > the language dropdown in the editor). I am looking for a solution for
> > this problem. If you know, please describe a bit more extensive. Thank
> > you.
> >
> > Uli
> >
> > Corsin Camichel wrote:
> > >is an editor a real person or do you mean an editor like htmlare or
> > >something similiar?
> > >
> > >if you are talking about a "redakteur"/real person, you could allow
> > >only a new created group (example called "group_de") to alter textes,
> > >and overwrite inherited permissions for "User" group.
> > >
> > >On 10/20/05, Uli Emmerich <2005-09-02 at web.de> wrote:
> > >>Corsin,
> > >>
> > >>how does this work  if you want to restict each language version /
> > >>directory to a different editor? Each editor would be able to change
> > >> the content of all language versions.
> > >>
> > >>Uli
> > >>
> > >>Corsin Camichel wrote:
> > >>>Hi Roman
> > >>>
> > >>>I can tell you how we did it:
> > >>>
> > >>>Our main language is german. So we first create a directory /de/ with
> > >>>the locale property de. If this page is done, with all the textes and
> > >>>so on, I created a sibling of the /de/ folder with "Copy no resource,
> > >>>just create siblings of all resources in the folder" to /en/ and
> > >>>adjusted the the locale property. If the user need to change a text,
> > >>>it does not matter if he/she is in /de/ or /en/ or /foo/ as long as he
> > >>>changes the language in the editor with the dropdown.
> > >>>
> > >>>You create with this for each lang. an own directory, but the text is
> > >>> "shared".
> > >>>
> > >>>Regards
> > >>>Corsin
> > >>>
> > >>>--
> > >>>Corsin Camichel
> > >>>cocaman at gmail.com
> > >>>
> > >>>On 10/20/05, Uhlig, Roman <roman.uhlig at knve.de> wrote:
> > >>>>Hi,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>So far everything looks fine, and we are enjoying working with
> > >>>> OpenCms. Except one major question we are not able to answer as
> > >>>> OpenCms "newbies": Is there an easy way to handle a site with
> > >>>> several languages (with several, I mean about 5-6)? As far as we
> > >>>> have figured it out, one has to do the following things when adding
> > >>>> a new language:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>- registering the language in opencms-system.xml
> > >>>>- create a folder for that language and setting it's locale property
> > >>>>- copy over the folder structure from an existing language
> > >>>>- create siblings of all files of the existing "main language"
> > >>>>
> > >>>>This is quite some work to do for several languages and looks somehow
> > >>>>wrong. I don't think this is necessary and would like to ask you, if
> > >>>>there is an easy way to do this.
> > >>>>The language specific stuff is already there in the control code of
> > >>>>every file, so why would I need siblings anyway regarding
> > >>>> multi-language behaviour? Wouldn't it be great to just set the
> > >>>> locale property of the root folder and derive it to the whole tree
> > >>>> of the site?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Any hints are very appreciated.
> > >>>>Thanks in advance,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Roman Uhlig <mailto:roman.uhlig at knve.de>
> > >>>>
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> > >Corsin Camichel
> > >cocaman at gmail.com
> > >
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