AW: AW: [opencms-dev] Several Languages - Howto
Bernd Wolfsegger
bw at code-create.com
Fri Oct 21 15:23:49 CEST 2005
Well, you don't have to touch the OpenCms core!
Just make your own LocaleHandler in some package implementing I_Cms.... and
than change the entry in opencms-system.xml to this Handler.
Kind regards, Bernd
On Friday, 21. October 2005 15:30, Roman Uhlig | Knuepfer Verlag wrote:
> Thanks Bernd, we'll try the CmsLocalHandler.
> Looks like a low-level but useful approach for managing multi-language
> sites.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Roman Uhlig <mailto:roman.uhlig at knve.de>
>
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
> [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org] Im Auftrag von Bernd Wolfsegger
> Gesendet: Freitag, 21. Oktober 2005 12:27
> An: opencms-dev at opencms.org
> Betreff: Re: AW: [opencms-dev] Several Languages - Howto
>
> Hi Roman,
>
> I have just one structure on my site, no siblings at all for language
> matters.
> I use xmlcontent only (no xmlpage etc.).
>
> Ähm, how the navigation is generated is a decision made by the
> programmer/developer.
> You can use properties for that, but you can use the value of xmlcontent
> fields too.
>
> It's a question what should be handled by properties and what by fields.
>
> Implement an I_CmsLocaleHandler which fits your needs and thats it.
>
> So my implementation makes the locale decision based on the top level
> domain.
> And has some fallbacks if a specific domian/locale mapping is not defined,
> or parameter is present in the url.
> Right now it is not properties (java properties) based, but new
> domain/laguage mappings could be easily added to the source.
>
> So, at the top of your JSP you retrieve the locale:
> Locale locale = YourLocaleHandler.getLocale(cms, request,
> currentRessource);
>
> And use it to retrieve locale specific content on your page or make
> decisions whatever.
>
> Kind regards, Bernd
>
> On Friday, 21. October 2005 12:49, Roman Uhlig | Knuepfer Verlag wrote:
> > Hi Bernd,
> >
> > Well, that was my initial question inside the starting post of this
>
> thread:
> > How do I handle a multi-language site with OpenCms?
> >
> > As far as I got till now there is only the solution involving
> > different folders for every language, cause I need of course a
> > language specific navigation too. This is generated from folder/file
> > properties, which is only language specific if I create them for every
>
> language.
>
> > Actually, we just need basic multi-language features, nothing special:
> > - different independent language content
> > - all languages share the same site structure and content objects
> > - possibility to switch the language while visiting the site
> > - possibility to handle stuff dynamically based on the chosen
> > language, e.g. links or navigation
> > - possibility to edit language specific content based on user accounts
> >
> > These are basic multi-language site requirements. But we couldnt
> > figure out yet how to do this with OpenCms, the language demo inside
> > the documentation doesn't answer this. Till now, the question still
> > seems to be open and we would like to solve or at least answer it for
> > ourselves, because it's the only issue we have with OpenCms.
> > Everything else is working fine. But if there is no solution to set up
> > a multi-language site without copying or linking the whole structure
> > for every language, we have to look further during our CMS evaluation.
> >
> > Any help on this is still very appreciated, cause we feel comfortable
> > with OpenCms and it would be sad to drop it because of issues
> > regarding the handling of several languages, which has never been a
> > problem with other CMS we used until now.
> >
> > Thank you in advance,
> > Roman Uhlig
> >
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> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
> > [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org] Im Auftrag von Bernd
> > Wolfsegger
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 21. Oktober 2005 11:33
> > An: The OpenCms mailing list
> > Betreff: Re: [opencms-dev] Several Languages - Howto
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > for what purpose do you exactly need multiple language specific
> > folders anyway?
> >
> > Since the language dependend content can be accessed in one ressource,
> > because it incorporates all languages. So why split it again and
> > having a lot of problems?
> >
> > Kind regadrs, Bernd
> >
> > On Friday, 21. October 2005 11:59, Uhlig, Roman wrote:
> > > Thank you Corsin for your recommendation, we will try that.
> > > But I see no solution to the problem Matthias and Bernd are
> > > discussing in this thread.
> > >
> > > One of our largest customer portals serves 6 languages. If something
> > > changes or new structure has to be added, a chief editor would have
> > > to create the new files in one language and then create the siblings
> > > for all other languages manually? That sounds weird actually.
> > >
> > > As for the link management mentioned by Bernd, I guess there is a
> > > way to dynamically parse links to the appropriate language based on
> > > the language the visitor has selected? In our current "to-replace"
> > > CMS no internal link is static, they are all generated dynamically
> > > based on several properties (like language). This should be possible
> > > inside OpenCms too, I think.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Roman Uhlig
> > >
> > >
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