[opencms-dev] openCMS workflow - Please help!

David Trattnig david.trattnig at gmail.com
Thu Jan 24 16:29:06 CET 2008 

Hi Viki,

I've tried to reconstruct your scenario, but I'm not sure about some
conditions:

* Which user (+group +roles) are you using for these operations? Admin?
* Was it always the same user?
* Which resource type have you moved to project review?
* "*I found nothing. Means menu is empty.*" - Is there at least an empty
(small) gray bar or is there really nothing at all?
* Projects assignments: What's the project manager group (I've got
"Administrators")? What's the users group (I've got "Users")
* Which project resource assignments? I've got "/" for all projects.

Cheers,
David


2008/1/23 Vikrama Sanjeeva <viki.sanjeeva at gmail.com>:

> Hi David,
>
>      I'd installed Worfkow2 and created the projects, groups and users as
> you said in your email. Then I went to explorer view and selected one
> content. On right clicking the content, I found Approve/Reject option, on
> selecting it, I sent the content for Review. Then I selected Review from
> Project and found the same content highlighted there. Rest all other
> contents are grey BUT not disabled. Please note that, when i right clicked
> the highlighted content, i found nothing. Means menu is empty.
>
>     How to proceed further? Am I missing something? As of now, am
> interested in achieving "Approval Process" functionality from within the
> OpenCMS Workplace. I want to know how exactly Approval Process works using
> OpenCMS_Workflow2.
>
> Kindly advise further.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bye,
> Viki.
>
> On Jan 23, 2008 5:39 PM, David Trattnig <david.trattnig at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > @Huy Tran: Thank you for the input. Yes, you have a point there - it may
> > be more comfortable when the user could approve/reject directly in the
> > website preview or inside the FCK editor. I've chosen the FCK Editor
> > approach for my previous workflow implementation. Maybe I'll add this
> > feature to the current one anytime later but keep in mind this is just more
> > a UI thing. Wherever you initiate your approval process you have to
> > implement some logic for managing workflow states in every case. And that's
> > the major amount of work.
> >
> > I would be very interested how you have realised the different workflow
> > states in detail? Does it also perform permission modifications? Would be
> > happy if you have some more input/ideas for me.
> >
> > @Viki: Sorry, currently you can just approve/reject via the workplace
> > context menu. If you want you can add these functionalities yourself and
> > contribute ;-)
> >
> > @Alkakon: I'm wondering why my mails are alway boucing back (see below,opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
> > )?
> >
> > Cheers
> > David
> >
> >
> > On Jan 23, 2008 8:17 AM, Vikrama Sanjeeva <viki.sanjeeva at gmail.com >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > David, I have downloaded the full-package
> > > (OpenCms_Workflow2_v0.4.1_full-package.zip ~ 4.73MB ).  I will install
> > > it. However, as Huy Tran said, I am also looking to achieve this
> > > functionality out of workplace. Means, a toolbar will be there right on
> > > website which will allow customers to create/edit/publish contents using pre
> > > defined customize process. Lets say it "Approval Process".
> > >
> > >   Could this be done via "OpenCms_Workflow2" ? OR as Huy Tran said, I
> > > will have to develop the Approval Process manually using OpenCMS API?
> > >
> > >   This is the time for me to decide the right approach for my
> > > requirement. I will appreciate any guidence/help.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Bye,
> > > Viki.
> > >
> > > 2008/1/23 <HuyTran at c-mg.net>:
> > >
> > >   Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I think this is very good. I first came up with the same ideas but
> > > > our customers who is Reviewers and Approvers don't want to work in the
> > > > workplace, they want to use a toolbar on the page itself to approve or
> > > > reject the pages. So if your customer feel easy to work in the workplace, I
> > > > think this is the best solution.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Good lucks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Huy Tran
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > *From:* opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org [mailto:
> > > > opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org] *On Behalf Of *David Trattnig
> > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 22, 2008 11:57 PM
> > > > *To:* The OpenCms mailing list
> > > > *Subject:* Re: [opencms-dev] openCMS workflow - Please help!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Viki
> > > >
> > > > > * user A created a content
> > > > > * content went for to user B.
> > > > > * user B either Rejects or Approves content
> > > > > * if B approves, it went to C
> > > > > * Finally C publishes the content
> > > >
> > > > I would say that's the main functionality of the *OpenCms Workflow2
> > > > Module* which can be found here
> > > > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=180314(Download the latest full package version). As you don't need advanced
> > > > workflow features I reckon this workflow implementation fits best for you.
> > > > Especially you don't need to modify/rebuild the OpenCms core as *Huy
> > > > Tran* suggested and configuration is very easy.
> > > >
> > > > First of all you've to create three projects for the three types of
> > > > users A, B and C and assign these users (respectively their usergroups) to
> > > > the projects (I've named the projects "Offline", which is already available,
> > > > "Review" and "Approval"). Don't forget to assign all three projects to the
> > > > same directory ("/", *root *suggested).
> > > >
> > > > Then go on with the quick installation guide:
> > > >
> > > >    1. Import the *commons*, *springmanager *and * workflow2*module via OpenCms module import mechanism.
> > > >    2. Copy opencms-workplace.xml to %OPENCMS_DIR%\WEB-INF\config\
> > > >    (replace current configuration)
> > > >    3. Restart your server.
> > > >    4. As a final step you have to create your workflow inside the
> > > >    workflow administration panel of OpenCms. Voilá!
> > > >
> > > > That's all. The Workflow2 Module automatically uses the OpenCms DB
> > > > connection without configuration. If you need advanced DB configuration have
> > > > a look at *readme.txt *inside the distribution package. In case of
> > > > problems just leave me a message.
> > > >
> > > > Have fun
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > >  2008/1/22 Vikrama Sanjeeva <viki.sanjeeva at gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks all. Well, i am least interested in doing all the manually
> > > > using openCMS API. However, I am now looking for free workflow engines for
> > > > openCMS. The is the decision time for us as we are going to build client's
> > > > website on openCMS and providing functinalities of workflow like the one i
> > > > mentioned in my 1st post.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   Which opencms-workflow engine is more mature? In terms of less
> > > > bugs, easy to use and providing basic workflow functionalities?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Here are two which I know. One is by Mr. Shi Yusen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1: OpenCms-jBPM
> > > >
> > > > 2: Bearingpoint-OpenCms-Modules Commons
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please help me in selecting suitable workflow engine for openCMS?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bye,
> > > >
> > > > Viki.
> > > >
> > > > On Jan 21, 2008 9:43 PM, Shi Yusen <shiys at langhua.cn> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps you can try our free OpenCms-jBPM module. It's here:
> > > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/jbpm-opencms/
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Shi Yusen/Beijing Langhua Ltd.
> > > >
> > > > 在 2008-01-21一的 17:24 +0300 ，Vikrama Sanjeeva写道：
> > > >
> > > > > Hi ALL,
> > > > >
> > > > >   This is urgent question and am looking for help and guidence in
> > > > this
> > > > > regard.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is below workflow achievable using openCMS?
> > > > >
> > > > > * user A created a content
> > > > > * content went for to user B.
> > > > > * user B either Rejects or Approves content
> > > > > * if B approves, it went to C
> > > > > * Finally C publishes the content
> > > > >
> > > > > this is simple workflow. Please tell me how I can achieve this
> > > > > workflow in openCMS?
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Bye,
> > > > > Viki.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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