[opencms-dev] OpenCms Not at all User Friendly

[Pam Callaway]

Sounds like you could use a "wizard"-like setup process...

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Raj Malhotra
<rajvinder.forummails at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Georgi
> It may sound silly to you as you may be one of the experts in OpenCms.But i
> have just started working in OPenCms .I am working on a OpenCms application
> which uses 6.2.3 version I have to migrate it to 7.0.4 version.
>  I will say that there is no true sequence to create a project.I will post
> few questions which came to my mind
> 1.I want to create a website so should i start with creating project in
> opencms or first should create folder structure.?
>
> 2.what to create first group or users. what i am doing after trying random
> way is that first i am creating folder structure then i will create group
> then user  assign user to group and finally will create project .This is my
> suggestion that everything should be in wizard manner once you click on
> create project ,you should be provided with options one by one and at the
> end your project should be complete.ex like microsoft products.
>
> 3.I am totally confused with the users.groups and roles .How we are
> assinging permission is not at all clear .Present way is not friendly .when
> you create user you just assign group but i just cannot see where how
> permmissions are assign or  how permission system is going to work.
>
> 4. once you create everything and righclick on the resource say  a jsp. And
> you select permissions .you see userr permmissions,permssion inherited from
> parent folders and resource permission.The following doubts are in mind
> regarding this.
>
>  a.user permission means if  i  login as Admin then   'user permission' on
> resource means that admin has these permission on the jsp.
>
>
>  b.looking at 'permissions inherited from parent folder' there  you have
> Adminstrators ,Users,ProjectManagers group.I think that if login user is
> Administrator then his available permsions are shown in Administrators
> groups,If login user belongs to 'ProjectManagers' group then ProjectManager
> group is showing his permission.
>
> but then b is contradicting a.
>
> c.finally resouce permission also there .so if all these is shown in the UI
> what is the actual permissions fo login users how its determined if user
> belongs to two groups.
>
>  I read something about 'Role based Acess Control' and heard lots of praise
> for such system.I am not sure but if it makes OpenCms simpler then it should
> be implemented.
>
> I have looked this much only in OpenCms and i found permssion assingment
> very complex.I have already posted many posts in last few days but didnt get
> single answer.
>
>
> regards
> Raj
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Georgi Naplatanov <gosho at oles.biz> wrote:
>
> > Hello, Raj
> >
> > can You explain, or give some examples for non user friendly behaviour
> > of opencms ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Raj Malhotra wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > I am beginner in opencms.I think it is not at all user friendly
> application
> > > . If you take example of  windows and linux .its more complex like
> linux.A
> > > new person cant understand it easily.I wish it should be as easy as
> > > windows.May be opencms community should work on making it more user
> > > friendly.
> > > thanks
> > > Raj
> > >
> > >
> > >
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