[opencms-dev] Release Early, Release Often Re: how about schedule of OpenCms 8?

[Achim Westermann]

Hi Scintillance,

I for myself can live with development going on in a non-public branch. 
I contributed some patches during this time and some were taken over 
into HEAD and my company is currently running in production with two of 
them in 7.5.2.. So for me contributions do not seem to be cut-off.
I think if unfinished stuff is subject to patches/contributions it is 
highly likely that they are not taken into account as they were 
adressing things that were subject to heavy changes/complete drops. This 
might offend contributors as well.
GIT is cool. Android uses it. Scala is cool. Xing is made with it. 
XSL-fo was cool. Google Wave was cool. Which does not mean that the 
well-hung stuff becomes crappy. And which does not mean that "cool" 
stuff is really a time-saver in production. It is only a guarantee that 
it is fun and cool for developers to play and experiment with top-notch 
fresh stuff.

;-)
Achim



On 10/23/2010 09:13 AM, Scintillance wrote:
>    Thanks to Michael for his explanation.
>
> I guess the point is there is no such thing as 'working perfectly', else
> no-one would ever release software! I think the beta tag is enough to
> stop people from blindly using software which isn't ready for prime
> time; developers, on the other hand, can help to _make_ it ready, and
> often need to see what's coming over the horizon.
>
> By choosing to hide OpenCms 8 in this way, Alkacon have unfortunately
> put off contributions, adoption etc by months. They've also made it more
> likely that current OpenCms users will jump ship and start using other
> CMSs. I have one customer who's doing exactly that; if they could see
> what was so fabulous about OpenCms 8, they might not.
>
> While we're talking about the way software is shared, could we move to a
> modern VCS, e.g. Git :-)?
>
> On 22/10/2010 19:57, Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
>> There are arguments for not releasing source code during development
>> which I would understand and not oppose but not this one.
>>
>> Here is why:
>>
>> Release Early, Release Often
>> http://www.catb.org/esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar/ar01s04.html
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andreas
>> ---
>>
>> Michael Emmerich wrote:
>>> When OpenCms 8 is released, it will be of course available in the public
>>> CVS again.
>>>
>>> We always want to provide a working version in the CVS.
>>> During development of a new version, this cannot be guaranteed,
>>> therefore we will move the new version in the back in the CVS when
>>> it is ready.
>
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