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<DIV><FONT size=2>Hi Bosko,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I have collected the product features(OpenCMS, Vignette,
Microsoft CMS) from various sources. Hope this might be helpful.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Seji</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=boskovuk@rogers.com href="mailto:boskovuk@rogers.com">Bosko
Vukojevic</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=sthomas@cordiant.net
href="mailto:sthomas@cordiant.net">sthomas@cordiant.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 07, 2003 8:38
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [opencms-dev] Suitability of
OpenCMS</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=070010015-07102003>Hi Seji,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=070010015-07102003>This is quite interesting topic. We are also trying
to understand the key difference between Vignette and
OpenCMS.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=070010015-07102003>Would it be possible for you to share with us the
results of your comparasion study?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=070010015-07102003>Thanks in advance,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=070010015-07102003>Bosko</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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face="Courier New" size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:opencms-dev-admin@opencms.org">opencms-dev-admin@opencms.org</A>
[mailto:opencms-dev-admin@opencms.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Seji
Thomas<BR><B>Sent:</B> October 6, 2003 2:13 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
opencms-dev@opencms.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [opencms-dev] Suitability of
OpenCMS<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><!-- Converted from text/plain format -->
<P><FONT size=2><FONT face="Courier New">Hi Matt,<BR><BR>Thanks for your
detailed and useful comment. Infact we had done a<BR>preliminary study of
Vignette 5.x, Microsoft CMS, and OpenCMS. During the<BR>study we listed out
some 30 - 35 functionalities required of a CMS. More<BR>than half the
features are common among them. Vignette, and MCMS provide in<BR>addition
provides things like XML web services support, site<BR>analytics(customer
web site interaction, and usage), document management<BR>etc.<BR><BR>What
you have mentioned in the second para is true - developing web apps<BR>using
OpenCMS is faster. One can find modules developed in the Open
Source<BR>Community which can be adapted through modification to suffice
application<BR>needs, especially Lucene Search module, News and Weather
modules. I have<BR>downloaded the modules from </FONT><A
href="http://opencms.al-arenal.de/"><FONT
face="Courier New">http://opencms.al-arenal.de/</FONT></A><FONT
face="Courier New"> and need to<BR>implement those. Finding a proper
documentation for OpenCMS is very<BR>difficult, but the development
community mail group bridges this gap to some<BR>extent.<BR><BR>Now the real
challenge lies in bringing the client to confidence that<BR>OpenCMS can
serve their organizational needs. What I have observed with the<BR>current
application is that Vignette is an overkill for them both on<BR>capability
utilization, and cost front. I hope the application can be<BR>redeveloped
using OpenCMS.<BR><BR>One thing more I would like to know is whether OpenCMS
API provides for any<BR>Rich Text Editor that can be embedded on Browser, or
is that feature if at<BR>all available, a third party
component.<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Seji Thomas<BR><BR>----- Original Message
-----<BR>From: "M Butcher" <mbutcher@grcomputing.net><BR>To:
<opencms-dev@opencms.org><BR>Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 12:37
AM<BR>Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] Suitability of OpenCMS<BR><BR><BR>>
Seji,<BR>><BR>> OpenCMS is quite a bit different from Vignette, so a
"line by line"<BR>> comparison might not be the fairest way to approach
the two. However,<BR>> I'll try.<BR>><BR>> First of all, OpenCMS is
heavily optimized for Web content, which makes<BR>> development time for
Web apps faster than some of the other commercial<BR>> CMS products I've
used.<BR>><BR>> Content Uploads:<BR>> OpenCMS uses an XML format
for much of its content. Most of the Web<BR>> content is stored, managed
and edited within the OpenCMS system (usually<BR>> via the administration
interface). Editors work directly on CMS content<BR>> through their Web
browsers.<BR>><BR>> Uploads of other content is possible through a
number of mechanisms. For<BR>> the post part, though, external file
formats (DOC, PDF, XLS) are simply<BR>> treated as binary documents, and
(aside from specifying metadata) not<BR>> much is done with them. That
said, there are a couple of reasources that<BR>> the OpenCMS community
has worked on to add on some capabilities (such as<BR>> download catalogs
and Lucene searching of PDF documents).<BR>><BR>> Viewing/Uploading
Content:<BR>> OpenCMS handles files in a virtual file system (VFS), so
navigating<BR>> documents is done by clicking through a document
hierarchy. There are<BR>> also search tools to help editors find
files.<BR>><BR>> Site Searching:<BR>> There are two or three (maybe
more) modules to add searching<BR>> capabilities to OpenCMS. Some provide
search for published files, others<BR>> search the CMS repository
directly. All that I know of use optimized<BR>> indexing as a method of
searching (e.g. "periodic full text indexing").<BR>> Again, searching
generally only works for Web documents (and sometimes<BR>> PDF), but
AFAIK will not work on binary formats like Word and Excel.<BR>><BR>>
Scripting:<BR>> OpenCMS uses JSP, XML Templates and Java classes to
handle content. JSPs<BR>> are probably the closest to TCL. OpenCMS is
designed to be extended, and<BR>> there are lots of ways to develop
additional functionality. In the past,<BR>> I've added on features
to:<BR>> - allow user registration over the web<BR>> - integrate with
third-party forums<BR>> - add email notifications<BR>> - search the
repository<BR>> - email web pages<BR>> - integrate third party
chat<BR>><BR>> Others on the list have developed custom calendaring,
news, article<BR>> management, guestbook and weather modules which are
available as Open<BR>> Source modules.<BR>><BR>> Any major CMS move
will take time and resources, and data migration will<BR>> be a big task.
I don't know if OpenCMS will be much faster than others,<BR>> but at
least you have tools (and sourcecode) that will give a<BR>> development
team a leg up in expediting the process.<BR>><BR>> Finally, In
addition to the official website, you may want to look at<BR>> </FONT><A
href="http://opencms.al-arenal.de/"><FONT
face="Courier New">http://opencms.al-arenal.de/</FONT></A><FONT
face="Courier New"> (a repository of additional modules and<BR>>
documents) and </FONT><A href="http://www.opencms-forum.de"><FONT
face="Courier New">http://www.opencms-forum.de</FONT></A><FONT
face="Courier New"> (the forums) for more info on<BR>> the product and
what people have done with it.<BR>><BR>> Hope that
helps.<BR>><BR>> Matt<BR>><BR>> On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 12:14,
Seji Thomas wrote:<BR>> > Hi All,<BR>> ><BR>> > I am
having a web-site which is managed through Vignette Content<BR>> >
Management System 5.x. It has a content upload module through which<BR>>
> users of the system upload data to the system. The data may be
text,<BR>> > textfiles, pdfs, docs, spreadsheets etc. Apart from this
there is<BR>> > a content display module through which users can view
content and<BR>> > search for those uploaded items. The users can also
subscribe for<BR>> > various kind of mail alerts when a content of
their choice gets<BR>> > uploaded. The current system employs periodic
full text indexing on<BR>> > the database so as to speed up the
search. The web-site also needs<BR>> > search functionality - both
static and dynamic content(dynamic<BR>> > desirable).<BR>>
><BR>> > Vignette manages the site by way of running Tcl Scripts.
How suitable<BR>> > is OpenCMS for developing and managing a site of
this stature? I have<BR>> > mentioned only some of the major functions
of the system. Since the<BR>> > softwares currently used are costly
and some of the aspects like full<BR>> > text indexing has to be
implemented more efficiently the site requires<BR>> > a major revamp
without loss of data.<BR>> ><BR>> > Any opinions on this will be
highly regarded.<BR>> ><BR>> > Thanks in Advance,<BR>> >
Seji Thomas<BR>> --<BR>> M Butcher <A
href="mailto:mbutcher@grcomputing.net">mbutcher@grcomputing.net</A><BR></FONT></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>