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color=#0000ff size=2>To clarify, I am making a suggestion to help the growth of
OpenCms. I have the book, I have read docs, I have searched the archives
(maybe not made it my bedtime reading, but done a bunch of searching/browsing).
However, OpenCms is a complex system and every little bit helps.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=593020816-13102004>For
example, if you have a pointer to what an 'inclusion loop error' is and how it
is caused, that would be great. This one comes up a lot (in my learning and in
the mailing lists), but I haven't found an explanation of what it's all about.
Without that understanding, I am not able to figure out how to address it, work
around it, live with it.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> opencms-dev-bounces@opencms.org
[mailto:opencms-dev-bounces@opencms.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Paul D.
Bain<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 13, 2004 12:03 PM<BR><B>To:</B> The
OpenCms mailing list<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [opencms-dev] open letter -- How to
learn OpenCMS<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>At 09:46 AM 10/13/04, you wrote:<BR><BR>
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size=2>I am new to OpenCms and am trying to develop a web application using
it. Over the past month or so, I have posted many messages to this list, but
only received a few replies to various questions. I have also noticed in the
message archives a lot more questions than answers. Open-source projects that
do well usually have a good community behind them to help out new users, along
with demos and good documentation. While, OpenCms has the best docs of any
open-source CMS project I have looked into, I don't see enough help on the
mailing list.
</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><X-TAB> </X-TAB>There
is no shortage of help on this list. The problem does NOT lie with the OpenCMS
developers or with the experienced users of OpenCMS. The problem lies with users
who are too lazy to search the email archives, too lazy to read the
documentation, or too cheap to buy Matt Butcher's excellent book on
OpenCMS.<BR><BR><X-TAB> </X-TAB>When
I began learning OpenCMS two years ago, I began by reading the official
documentation. Then, I read every single email in the archives (for the prior
six months) that had been posted by Alexander Kandzior, the chief architect of
OpenCMS. Other posters whose emails contain valuable information include
these:<BR><BR><X-TAB> </X-TAB>=
Matt Butcher<BR><X-TAB> </X-TAB>=
Olli Aro<BR><X-TAB> </X-TAB>=
Mark
Miller<BR><X-TAB> </X-TAB>=
Stephan
Hartmann<BR><X-TAB> </X-TAB>=
Rene
Hinojosa<BR><X-TAB> </X-TAB>=
Joachim
Arrasz<BR><X-TAB> </X-TAB>=
Thomas Marz<BR><BR>I suggest that you read the emails of these experienced users
_very_ carefully. Their emails contain a great deal of supplemental, useful
information. Do _not_ merely search the email archives. BROWSE them. READ them.
They are a gold mine of information.<BR><BR>Sincerely,<BR>Paul Bain<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica"
size=2>For example, a project like Resin, which has a very small team of
developers, has its lead developer posting regularly to the mailing list to
help people. <BR></FONT><BR><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica" size=2>I hope that
Alkacon can devote more resources to monitoring the list and helping new users
and thus grow the community of experienced users (who in turn can help people
out on the list).<BR></FONT><BR><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica" size=2>-andy
kriger</FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>