@Huy Tran: Thank you for the input. Yes, you have a point there - it may be more comfortable when the user could approve/reject directly in the website preview or inside the FCK editor. I've chosen the FCK Editor approach for my previous workflow implementation. Maybe I'll add this feature to the current one anytime later but keep in mind this is just more a UI thing. Wherever you initiate your approval process you have to implement some logic for managing workflow states in every case. And that's the major amount of work.
<br><br>I would be very interested how you have realised the different workflow states in detail? Does it also perform permission modifications? Would be happy if you have some more input/ideas for me.<br><br>@Viki: Sorry, currently you can just approve/reject via the workplace context menu. If you want you can add these functionalities yourself and contribute ;-)
<br><br>@Alkakon: I'm wondering why my mails are alway boucing back (see below,<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><a href="mailto:opencms-dev-bounces@opencms.org" target="_blank">
opencms-dev-bounces@opencms.org</a>)?<br><br></span></font>Cheers<br>David<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 23, 2008 8:17 AM, Vikrama Sanjeeva <<a href="mailto:viki.sanjeeva@gmail.com">viki.sanjeeva@gmail.com</a>
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<div>David, I have downloaded the full-package (OpenCms_Workflow2_v0.4.1_full-package.zip ~ 4.73MB ). I will install it. However, as Huy Tran said, I am also looking to achieve this functionality out of workplace. Means, a toolbar will be there right on website which will allow customers to create/edit/publish contents using pre defined customize process. Lets say it "Approval Process".
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<div> Could this be done via "OpenCms_Workflow2" ? OR as Huy Tran said, I will have to develop the Approval Process manually using OpenCMS API?</div>
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<div> This is the time for me to decide the right approach for my requirement. I will appreciate any guidence/help.</div>
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<div>Thanks.</div>
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<div>Bye,</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2008/1/23 <<a href="mailto:HuyTran@c-mg.net" target="_blank">HuyTran@c-mg.net</a>>:<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">I think this is very good. I first came up with the same ideas but our customers who is Reviewers and Approvers don't want to work in the workplace, they want to use a toolbar on the page itself to approve or reject the pages. So if your customer feel easy to work in the workplace, I think this is the best solution.
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">Huy Tran</span></font></p>
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<p><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> <a href="mailto:opencms-dev-bounces@opencms.org" target="_blank">
opencms-dev-bounces@opencms.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:opencms-dev-bounces@opencms.org" target="_blank">opencms-dev-bounces@opencms.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>David Trattnig
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 22, 2008 11:57 PM
<div><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> The OpenCms mailing list<br></div><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [opencms-dev] openCMS workflow - Please help!</span></font>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hi Viki<br><br>> * user A created a content <br>> * content went for to user B.<br>> * user B either Rejects or Approves content<br>> * if B approves, it went to C
<br>> * Finally C publishes the content<br><br>I would say that's the main functionality of the <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">OpenCms Workflow2 Module</span></b> which can be found here <a href="http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=180314" target="_blank">
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=180314</a> (Download the latest full package version). As you don't need advanced workflow features I reckon this workflow implementation fits best for you. Especially you don't need to modify/rebuild the OpenCms core as
<i><span style="font-style: italic;">Huy Tran</span></i> suggested and configuration is very easy.<br><br>First of all you've to create three projects for the three types of users A, B and C and assign these users (respectively their usergroups) to the projects (I've named the projects "Offline", which is already available, "Review" and "Approval"). Don't forget to assign all three projects to the same directory ("/",
<i><span style="font-style: italic;">root </span></i>suggested).<br><br>Then go on with the quick installation guide:</span></font></p>
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<li><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Import the <i><span style="font-style: italic;">commons</span></i>, <i><span style="font-style: italic;">springmanager </span></i>and <i><span style="font-style: italic;">
workflow2</span></i> module via OpenCms module import mechanism. </span></font></li>
<li><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Copy opencms-workplace.xml to %OPENCMS_DIR%\WEB-INF\config\ (replace current configuration)</span></font></li>
<li><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Restart your server. </span></font></li>
<li><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">As a final step you have to create your workflow inside the workflow administration panel of OpenCms. Voilá!</span></font></li></ol>
<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">That's all. The Workflow2 Module automatically uses the OpenCms DB connection without configuration. If you need advanced DB configuration have a look at
<i><span style="font-style: italic;">readme.txt </span></i>inside the distribution package. In case of problems just leave me a message. <br><br>Have fun<br>David<br><br></span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">2008/1/22 Vikrama Sanjeeva <<a href="mailto:viki.sanjeeva@gmail.com" target="_blank">viki.sanjeeva@gmail.com</a>>:</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Thanks all. Well, i am least interested in doing all the manually using openCMS API. However, I am now looking for free workflow engines for openCMS. The is the decision time for us as we are going to build client's website on openCMS and providing functinalities of workflow like the one i mentioned in my 1st post.
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> Which opencms-workflow engine is more mature? In terms of less bugs, easy to use and providing basic workflow functionalities?</span></font></p></div>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Here are two which I know. One is by Mr. Shi Yusen </span></font></p></div>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">1: OpenCms-jBPM </span></font></p></div>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">2: Bearingpoint-OpenCms-Modules Commons </span></font></p></div>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Please help me in selecting suitable workflow engine for openCMS?</span></font></p></div>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Bye,</span></font></p></div>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On Jan 21, 2008 9:43 PM, Shi Yusen <<a href="mailto:shiys@langhua.cn" target="_blank">shiys@langhua.cn</a>> wrote:</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Perhaps you can try our free OpenCms-jBPM module. It's here:<br><a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/jbpm-opencms/" target="_blank">http://sourceforge.net/projects/jbpm-opencms/
</a><br><br>Regards,<br><br>Shi Yusen/Beijing Langhua Ltd.<br><br></span></font><font face="MS Mincho"><span>在</span></font> 2008-01-21<font face="MS Mincho"><span>一的</span></font> 17:24 +0300<font face="MS Mincho"><span>
，</span></font>Vikrama Sanjeeva<font face="MS Mincho"><span>写道：</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">> Hi ALL,<br>><br>> This is urgent question and am looking for help and guidence in this<br>> regard.<br>><br>> Is below workflow achievable using openCMS?
<br>><br>> * user A created a content <br>> * content went for to user B.<br>> * user B either Rejects or Approves content<br>> * if B approves, it went to C<br>> * Finally C publishes the content<br>>
<br>> this is simple workflow. Please tell me how I can achieve this <br>> workflow in openCMS?<br>><br>> thanks<br>><br>> Bye,<br>> Viki.<br>><br>><br>><br>></span></font></p></div></div>
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