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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Hi Lorenz,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">This would work great sometimes. But what about elements that should also allow links to regular, existing VFS resources? For those, I'd really like to use OpenCmsVfsFile / OpenCmsVarLink, so that
the VFS browser widget and link checking is enabled. (And by "link checking" I mean when publishing/deleting – not when editing.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Also, there's the issue of links in the text: Can I rely on the editor to not strip away links to internal resources that do not exist?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Anyway, I really appreciate your input! I actually hadn't considered the approach you're suggesting here ;)
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">My idea was to link to e.g. "/en/people/lookup?id=jane.doe" => "lookup" would be a JSP that issues a 301 redirect to "/en/people/jane.doe/". This should work – but all existing URIs in OpenCmsVfsFile/OpenCmsVarLink
element fields would have to be changed (I think).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:NO-BOK">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:NO-BOK"> opencms-dev-bounces@opencms.org [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces@opencms.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lorenz Lammersdorf<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2. desember 2016 11:02<br>
<b>To:</b> The OpenCms mailing list <opencms-dev@opencms.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [opencms-dev] Allow links to non-existing resources<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">maybe i've misunderstood your approach, but why do you need links? i'd build a xml scheme linke this:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><xsd:element name="externalResourceLanguage" type="OpenCmsString" /><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><xsd:element name="externalResourcePool" type="OpenCmsString" /><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><xsd:element name="externalResourceIdentifier" type="OpenCmsString" /><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><layout element="externalResourceLanguage" widget="SelectorWidget" configuration="en | klyngon | l33t | whatever" /><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><layout element="externalResourcePool" widget="SelectorWidget" configuration="people | dogs | cats | penguins" /><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">and based on this i'd "manufacture" the link in the template. of course it's a little more work for your editors, but you get rid of the whole dummy folders and files.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:NO-BOK">Von:</span></b><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:NO-BOK">
<a href="mailto:opencms-dev-bounces@opencms.org">opencms-dev-bounces@opencms.org</a> <<a href="mailto:opencms-dev-bounces@opencms.org">opencms-dev-bounces@opencms.org</a>> im Auftrag von Paul-Inge Flakstad <<a href="mailto:flakstad@npolar.no">flakstad@npolar.no</a>><br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 2. Dezember 2016 10:40:21<br>
<b>An:</b> The OpenCms mailing list<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> [opencms-dev] Allow links to non-existing resources</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:NO-BOK">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Our OpenCms site integrates some externally stored content – for example, person details (name, email, phone, etc.). I'll use this example to explain.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Each person page has a unique, human-friendly URI, like "/en/people/jane.doe/".
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Up until now, we've employed one dummy folder + index file in the VFS for every person. These are just empty resources; all the magic happens in the index file's template, which uses the ID found in the URI (e.g. "jane.doe")
to fetch the externally stored content and render the page. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">This approach works great with respect to the internal workings of OpenCms, but it's not very efficient. In an attempt to remedy that, I decided to write a resource initializer for requests to stuff inside the "/en/people/"
folder. It works great. All our person URIs work – they are in fact unchanged – with only the folder "/en/people/" existing in the VFS.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Finally we can get rid of those unnecessary dummy resources!
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">...there's just this tiiiny little problem...
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Links won't work anymore(!!!). At least not link fields in xmlcontent – imagine f.ex. a dedicated field called "Author" or "Contact person".<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Naturally, once all the dummy stuff is gone, adding a link to "/en/people/######" will produce an error. "Invalid reference, the resource can not be found." And it's correct, of course; the ###### resource doesn't exist
in the VFS. I'd still like to save the link, though.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Is there a way to circumvent this problem? Or am I forced to handle the issue another way? (I have good ideas on how to, but they would require modifying all existing links – and we have thousands of pages...)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks in advance,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Paul</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#2E74B5;mso-fareast-language:NO-BOK"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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