[opencms-dev] Next version info (was: RE: Large number of users)

Alexander Kandzior alex at opencms.org
Sat Oct 18 01:36:00 CEST 2003 

Markus,

- there is no set date for the next major OpenCms, 
  but it will certainly not be available before Q2/2004

- the next major OpenCms release will be version 6

- there will be some kind of an alpha release before, 
  with a subset of the v6 target features

- this alpha relase will likley have a 5.3.x version 
  number, and be available until end of this year

- the resource broker / DB structure has been rewritten 
  completly, and the new stuff is already in the HEAD CVS

- the new DB structure has an API that makes it much 
  easier to add external authentication to OpenCms

- the DB APIs in the CVS HEAD are still subject 
  to change until v6 is released

- community feedback on the new API is very welcome,
  additions / patches / fixes are even more welcome

- there will be an update path v5 -> v6, for most of the 
  vfs data it will be a simple export / import 

- a bugfix 5.0.1 version will also be available until 
  end of this year, this will have no new features

- it's true that a commercial LDAP implementation will
  be available from Alkacon for the v6 version

- don't worry, Alkacon is still fully committed to OpenCms as 
  true open source software, OpenCms v6 will have multiple
  new features to prove this

Best Regards,
Alex.

Alexander Kandzior
Alkacon Software - The OpenCms Experts
http://www.alkacon.com




> -----Original Message-----
> From: opencms-dev-admin at opencms.org 
> [mailto:opencms-dev-admin at opencms.org] On Behalf Of Marcus Redeker
> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 11:07 PM
> To: opencms-dev at opencms.org
> Subject: RE: [opencms-dev] Large number of users
> 
> 
> All,
> 
> I posted a few days ago that I started to work on LDAP 
> support. I have the main parts in place and now it is just a 
> question of implementing all the needed methods. Right now it 
> works for me to check the userid and password against LDAP 
> but the user still has to exist in the OpenCMS database. If 
> you want all OpenCMS related user and group information in 
> LDAP you need to implement an own LDAP schema. This is 
> something I am currently working on too. 
> 
> I will extract all the files I changed and which I added and 
> try to post them in the list over the weekend. Right now I 
> used the in place concept of the ResourceBroker and my LDAP 
> ResourceBroker is a kinf of proxy between the normally 
> configured database resourcebroker. So everything which is 
> not implemented in the LDAP resourcebroker is just called on 
> the database resourcebroker.
> 
> If in a newer version of OpenCMS these concepts would be 
> changed my stuff would be obsolete. I was looking for a 
> comment from Alkacon on this matter and when a new OpenCMS 
> would be comming out. But nothing yet except what we all know 
> that Alkacon has LDAP support for OpenCMS which is not OpenSource.
> 
> --Marcus
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: opencms-dev-admin at opencms.org
> > [mailto:opencms-dev-admin at opencms.org] On Behalf Of M Butcher
> > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 8:25 PM
> > To: opencms-dev at opencms.org
> > Subject: RE: [opencms-dev] Large number of users
> > 
> > 
> > This is another thing I was looking at very seriously. The
> > "quick fix" is to write some scripts to dump the LDAP users 
> > into OpenCMS, and then (prob. via the system cron) update the 
> > directory periodically. It's not ideal, though.
> > 
> > I worked for a while on adding LDAP support, but at the time
> > I heard that LDAP was about to be added to CVS for the next 
> > release. Now, though, it sounds like that is not the case. 
> > However, the next major version is supposed to replace the 
> > current object structure with one that is more conducive to 
> > external authentication. The main problem I had was breaking 
> > apart the authentication piece and the rest of the DB structure.
> > 
> > Olli, thanks for the info -- you've helped me as well as Nathan.
> > 
> > Matt
> > 
> > On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 09:45, Nathan Sweaney wrote:
> > > Thanks for the help.  I also would love to see some sort of open
> > > source LDAP project started.
> > > 
> > > Nathan
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >>> olli_aro at yahoo.co.uk 10/17/03 09:50AM >>>
> > > >
> > > > Olli, that sounds very much like what I'd like to do.  Being a
> > > > university setting, our departments suggest very obvious 
> > breaks for
> > > > different projects.  I'm still very new to OpenCMS, but what I'm
> > > > understanding is that everyone in the department could 
> be editors,
> > > but
> > > > there'd need to be one from each department that was a project
> > > manager
> > > > to actually publish content.  Is that correct?
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Yes, what you want to do is to have a separate project for every
> > > department, and sign every project with its' own editor group and 
> > > project manager group.
> > > We have done couple of small school implementations as 
> well and this
> > > is
> > > exactly how we have set them up.
> > > 
> > > > Also, if you have that many users, have you found a way 
> to use an
> > > > existing user tree, or did you create them all specifically for 
> > > > OpenCMS?
> > > >
> > > 
> > > We currently use OpenCms user management for this. However
> > I also have
> > > more and more clients asking after LDAP integration, so would be
> > > useful if the
> > > opencms community could kick off a project on this 
> > (especially since I
> > > read
> > > from this list couple of weeks ago that Alkacon do have
> > LDAP connector
> > > for
> > > OpenCms, but they are likely not going to release it as open 
> > > source)...
> > > 
> > > Olli
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