[opencms-dev] Latest Opencms prob with encoding
webmaster at gridnine.com
webmaster at gridnine.com
Fri Apr 16 08:56:02 CEST 2004
Hello Alezander,
There are many factors which may affect the way the browser encodes form
data while making request:
1. Content encoding of the page with form to be submitted (detected by
browser based on HTTP headers or HTML META tags).
2. Page encoding selected by user in the browser menu.
3. User OS international settings.
4. The request method (POST or GET).
According to current HTTP standards there is no reliable way to detect
request encoding from request data only.
The most reliable way which always works, unless user specially changes
encoding of the page in browser menu, is it assume that form data will be
submitted in the same encoding as html page which shows this form. This
method is the most reliable if all html pages are in UTF-8, which makes user
not care about encodings at all since everything will be displayed correctly
in any language and therefore user will not change encoding of the page in
the browser menu.
I am very interested to cooperate on i18n solution for new version of
OpenCMS. I have worked on current branch of OpenCMS to implement correct
language handling which was successfully tested in many different languages
including: Western and Eastern European languages, Russian, Greek,
Mongolian, Kazakh, Tai, Romanian, Turkish, etc.
Problems found in current brunch of OpenCMS:
1. XMLPage file content is stored using numeric entities for non-Latin
characters. Drawbacks:
a) File size dramatically increases for non-Latin language. This also cause
unnecessary increasing
page "weight" for site visitors (extra traffic).
b) Problems begging if someone wants to edit file using traditional text
editors and then put
file into CMS using synchronization mechanism.
c) Problems with editing such content with "Control code" editor.
2. NavTexts - do not support i18n.
3. MySQL - clean out all escape/unescape method calls in mysql access code
(not needed any more since J/Connector supports Unicode emulation)
4. JVM environment - remove dependency on -Dfile.encoding JVM startup
parameter
I am ready to discuss, contribute, and commit myself for testing on any of
these issues.
Best Regards,
Pavel.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Kandzior" <alex at opencms.org>
To: <opencms-dev at opencms.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 11:43 AM
Subject: RE: [opencms-dev] Latest Opencms prob with encoding
Vangelis,
if you want to help with the encoding this would be greatly appreciated.
Since you apparently are used to work in a different charset then
ISO-8859-1, I have a simple question for you (and for everyone else
experienced in this encoding issues):
When you create a regular HTML web form with a JSP (not in OpenCms, just
standard JSP), and you want your users to be able to enter greek chars, how
do you handle the encoding for such a form? How do you make sure that when
you on the server site do a <% String str =
request.getParameter("greekinput"); %> after posting the form have the chars
actually encoded in greek?
Actually, I already have a pretty clear picture on how I think this works,
but I want to check with someone who does this on a regular basis to see if
I am right or missing something.
Best Regards,
Alex.
Alexander Kandzior
Alkacon Software - The OpenCms Experts
http://www.alkacon.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: opencms-dev-admin at opencms.org
> [mailto:opencms-dev-admin at opencms.org] On Behalf Of
> Vlachogiannis Evangelos
> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 5:50 PM
> To: 'opencms-dev at opencms.org'
> Subject: RE: [opencms-dev] Latest Opencms prob with encoding
>
>
> Hi Alex,
>
> Of course... Well, as I am using opencms to create greek
> websites, I would primary like to set the navtext and title
> properties using greek chars so that they can be displayed in
> page. I tried both configuring tomcat/opencms with ISO-8859-7
> and UTF-8. None of them worked successfully. Following their
> resutls:
>
> ISO-8859-7
> source code : ;φσδφ σδ
> title file system : aooaa
> Navigation: ??????
>
> UTF-8
> source code : fine greek chars
> title :
> δφσδφ
> (encoded as ISO-8859-7 --> I.... Something like this)
> Navigation: I?I/I?I?I/I?
>
> I would love to see all (source code, tile, nav ... Show fine
> greek chars). I could maybe contribute on that with some
> guidelines from the experts...
>
> Another problem I faced on this "version" was when I tried to
> create a new project from a published folder ... I got a 404
> tomcat error in the file frame. I then tried to make a new
> project using the "new project" from admin. That worked but
> the project appeared in the drop-down of project. Well I am
> not sure about the philosophy but I wqas expecting to see
> that in the "sites" one. I would rename the "project" drop
> down to "mode". What do you think?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexander Kandzior [mailto:alex at opencms.org]
> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 10:48 AM
> To: opencms-dev at opencms.org
> Subject: RE: [opencms-dev] Latest Opencms prob with encoding
>
> Vangelis,
>
> encoding / i18n is current being worked on for the upcoming
> 6.0 release. Can you specify in greater detail what your
> problems are with the current CVS version?
>
> Best Regards,
> Alex.
>
> Alexander Kandzior
> Alkacon Software - The OpenCms Experts
> http://www.alkacon.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: opencms-dev-admin at opencms.org
> > [mailto:opencms-dev-admin at opencms.org] On Behalf Of Vlachogiannis
> > Evangelos
> > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:08 PM
> > To: 'opencms-dev at opencms.org'
> > Subject: [opencms-dev] Latest Opencms prob with encoding
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am using opencms 5.0.1 rel. Greek characters for properties
> > (navtext,
> > title) are working fine. I had managed that using tomcat
> and opencms
> > charset
> > : ISO-8859-7.
> >
> > I have just downloaded, build and install the latest
> opencms from CVS
> > and this is not working anymore. Any hints ideas please?
> >
> > Thnx,
> > Vangelis
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