AW: AW: AW: AW: [opencms-dev] OpenCMS6 backward module compatibility

[John Giammarche]

Well, thanks for the quite log reply.


I was just making some tests to see if I were likely
to run into problems when and if my boss urged me to
change versions.

I'm using the JSP template machanism in OpenCMS5, the
XML is just there for the JSP to work.

So, OpenCMS6 doesn't support OpenCMS5 templates...I'll
take it as a fact..:(

Regards,

John

--- Ulrich Rueth <lists at rueth.info> wrote:

> ... that's what lists are intended to be for...
> 
> Not sure whether you still have a question on the
> difference... If not,
> forget the rest, if yes:
> 
> In OpenCms 6 (opposed to OpenCms 4! not 5),
> xmltemplates were used to create
> a website. OC4 used frametemplates and stuff like
> this in a proprietary
> (legacy) OpenCms 4 format. OpenCms 5 still supports
> these legacy formats,
> but started to use JSP templates, which are "state
> of the art" in web
> programming. OpenCms 6 will no longer support the
> OpenCms 4 legacy formats
> (frame templates, etc.), where the CmsJspTemplate
> class belongs to, but
> switch completely to JSP tempates and xml content
> definitions. This is
> probably why the OpenCms guys (and girls?) moved
> this class and other
> proprietary classes to the "legacy" folder and
> deprecated them.
> 
> OpenCms 5 and 6 supports JSP templates. Templates is
> still the right word,
> as you use things like
> 
> <% if (cms.template("main")) { %> ... <% } %>
> 
> in your JSP files. Nevertheless, it has absolutely
> _nothing_ to do with the
> "old" template mechanism, which used things like
> 
> <XMLTEMPLATE>
> 	...
> </XMLTEMPLATE>
> 
> to build up a web site. This might be the reason why
> you were (are?)
> confused.
> 
> Please bear in mind that I am not a OpenCms
> programmer, but "only" a user.
> But my private website has been built on OpenCms 4,
> then OpenCms 5 and is
> currently moved to OpenCms 6. This is because I like
> to experience new
> "bleeding edge" things. When a web site is finished,
> it's starting to be
> boring for me.
> 
> However, if you are a professional and have to
> migrate existing, live web
> sites into OpenCms 6, you should severely consider
> to stick to OpenCms 5 as
> long as there is no stable, released version of
> OpenCms 6 including proper
> documentation. Especially the proper documentation
> is a MUST, but I can
> understand that there is none with an Alpha version
> (although desireable).
> Even with my small private site this takes me quite
> a while (I assume about
> 10 person days for ~30 web pages, as I also want to
> use the new xml content
> mechanism and throw away my old, self written one
> for OpenCms 5).
> 
> Secondly, if you are a professional, I would use the
> time until a stable
> OpenCms 6 version is released to learn more about
> Java, JSPs and tag
> libraries. There are lots of good books on this on
> the market. This makes it
> much much easier to use OpenCms.
> 
> Hope this helps...
> 
> Regards
> Ulrich
> 
> 
> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> Von: opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
> [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org]Im Auftrag
> von John Giammarche
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. Dezember 2004 21:32
> An: The OpenCms mailing list
> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: [opencms-dev] OpenCMS6
> backward module
> compatibility
> 
> 
> Hi Ulrich,
> 
> I have 5 complete sites up un running using
> OpenCMS5,
> I understand most of what is needed to create
> templates, etc...My problem is the difference
> between
> 5 and 6, which is what brought me here with my
> exception ;)
> 
> Thanks for answering anyway ;)
> 
> --- Ulrich Rueth <lists at rueth.info> wrote:
> 
> > Hi John,
> >
> > on www.opencms.org in the right colon you'll find
> > this link:
> >
> >
>
http://www.opencms.org/export/download/opencms/opencms_5.0_doc_full.zip
> >
> > This is the OpenCms 5 jsp documentation. I would
> use
> > it as a starting point,
> > although in OpenCms 6 (don't know what you use)
> this
> > will probably slightly
> > change.
> >
> > Regards
> > Ulrich
> >
> > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
> > [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org]Im Auftrag
> > von John Giammarche
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. Dezember 2004 20:24
> > An: The OpenCms mailing list
> > Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [opencms-dev] OpenCMS6
> backward
> > module
> > compatibility
> >
> >
> > I've found something; I know where I called that
> > class: in the XML placed in the "templates" folder
> >
> >     <!-- Always use this class tag when inserting
> a
> > JSP element in your page: -->
> >     <class>com.opencms.flex.CmsJspTemplate</class>
> >
> > So, how is the new way of using templates? I
> > couldn't
> > find any documentation on it.
> >
> > Thanks for the help,
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > --- Ulrich Rueth <lists at rueth.info> wrote:
> >
> > > This class you find in the com.opencms.legacy
> > > package, but be warned, it is
> > > deprecated and will no longer be supported in
> > > OpenCms 6! The template
> > > mechanism as you seem to use it will cease!
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Ulrich
> > >
> > > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
> > > [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org]Im
> Auftrag
> > > von John Giammarche
> > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. Dezember 2004 19:40
> > > An: The OpenCms mailing list
> > > Betreff: Re: AW: [opencms-dev] OpenCMS6 backward
> > > module compatibility
> > >
> > >
> > > Excuse me for writing again.
> > >
> > > I just noticed something the exception I'm
> > getting:
> > >
> > > > java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
> > > > com.opencms.flex.CmsJspTemplate
> > >
> > > I'm not instantiating this CmsJspTemplate class
> > nor
> > > I'm calling any of it's static methods. So, I
> > can't
> > > fix it in my code ;). Is there any way to fix
> > this?
> > >
> > > --- Ulrich Rueth <lists at rueth.info> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Mario,
> > > >
> > > > yes, but some packages also have changed. As
> far
> > > as
> 
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