[opencms-dev] Installation issues - Incompatible compiler& JRE

Wed May 25 16:35:20 CEST 2005

On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 15:05 +0200, cherif wrote:
> hello Paul D and Ethan,
> 
> Sorry if i send 2 times and my english!!
> 
> Ethan, there is no silly question, no body can claim to know everything. So
> you are rigth to post your problem.
> 
> The JDK is basically a JRE plus a compiler so you can compile and run java
> programs yes ?
> Because Tomcat needs a compiler to process JSP pages, you MUST download the
> JDK, yes?
> 
> jsp = java server pages
> 
> basically opencms Installation issues (on unix system and my own experience,
> don't know about  windows) is coming from:
> ----->bad PATH setting :java classes can't be found(e.g javac, even java) or
> other needed resources.
> ----->bad combination of versions (jdk version, jsp specification
> level(tomcat version),  mysql version ..)
> keep on mind that tomcat version 4.x =  servlet 2.3 specification - jsp 1.2
> specification
>     tomcat version 5.x =servlet 2.4 specification - jsp 2.0 specification
> etc....
> 

Now that is interesting - I hadn't seen that anywhere else. Still, I
tend to assume that it's supposed to work with this version of gcj since
that's what it came with...

> Please try to be sure gatering and "combining" the rigth pieces
> 
> I think Paul is rigth you are having incompatibility problem
> 
> You have installed your JRE via RPM, then before installing the jdk, did you
> remove your JRE RPM instal  ? (rpm -e .....)
> 

Yes, of course :)

> Can i suggest : jdk-1.5_0_03-linux-i386.bin, jakarta-tomcat-5.5.9.tar.gz,
> MYSQL-server-4.1.11-0.i386.rpm,MYSQL-client-4.1.11-0.i386.rpm,mysql-connecto
> r-java-3.1.8a.tar.gz those what i am using on fedora core 3 (think should
> work well on fc2)
> generally i don't like spanding too much time in deburging, very stressing,
> often trying to find the good combination as i describe is far more quiker..
> 

Check out the other message I just replied with - I actually no longer
think this is the problem at all. There is a bug in either OpenCMS or
gcc-java.

> I stay watching
> 
> Regards
> 

Thanks!
Ethan

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul D. Bain" <paulbain at pobox.com>
> To: "The OpenCms mailing list" <opencms-dev at opencms.org>; "Cherif"
> <multxt at free.fr>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 6:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] Installation issues - Incompatible compiler & JRE
> 
> 
> > Ethan Baldridge wrote:
> > > Installing the SDK instead of the RE didn't solve the issue, the error
> > > message seems to suggest though that the problem is probably in the
> > > compile stage, before it even hits the runtime.
> >
> > Ethan,
> >
> > Please DO NOT "top post." Reply to another person's comments and
> > questions "in-line" by placing your comments directly beneath those that
> > you want to reply to. Your following this practice makes it much easier
> > for other people to follow the discussion.
> >
> > > Honestly, I don't know what it's using to run the bytecode - I don't see
> > > an option to change it in any of the files in /etc/tomcat. I merely
> > > assumed it was the java runtime environment. I also don't see an option
> > > to change what it compiles with, but I assume it's gcj both from the
> > > error messages and also the fact that the RPM of tomcat installed has a
> > > dependency on gcj. Since the RPM required it, I assumed that was normal
> > > and not needed to explain. I apologize if my assumption was incorrect.
> > >
> > > Tomcat itself works just fine, I can view the examples and whatnot
> > > perfectly.
> > >
> > > localhost is the name of the default virtual host served by tomcat - I
> > > haven't seen a need to change the name, which is after all, merely a
> > > reference. The log file produced by tomcat for this virtual host is
> > > therefore, localhost.log
> >
> > OK, that is fine. In earlier versions of Tomcat (e.g., ver. 1.4.x),
> > Tomcat's log file was called "catalina.out" (by default), not
> > "localhost.log". Perhaps this name ("localhost.log") is peculiar to Red
> > Hat distributions, such as Fedora Linux.
> >
> > > I appreciate you're trying to help, but I think you're being a little
> > > confrontational. I did post the error message in my earlier email, in
> > > fact it was at the very top of it. I will quote the first few lines
> > > below.
> >
> > OK, I erred. My email client did not properly display the entire email
> > thread, just part of it. I apologize for seeming to be confrontational.
> >
> >   > I understand that you answer a lot of silly questions on this list,
> >
> > I do? I "answer a lot of silly questions on this list?" Well, I will be
> > damned. From time to time, I ask a few silly questions, too.
> >
> > > and
> > > I understand that mine may simply be another one.
> >
> > I do not think that your question is "silly." Rather, I think that you
> > need to learn a bit more about Tomcat, Java, and J2EE Web
> > administration. I shall reiterate my earlier suggestion: make certain
> > that your compiler and JRE are compatible by ensuring that they share
> > the same version and are from the same creator, e.g., Sun,
> > Blackdown.org, GNU, etc.
> >
> > > I have been doing Unix
> > > systems administration for 7 years, on Solaris and Linux, and I did
> > > seriously read all the documentation I could find and I searched the web
> > > diligently for solutions earlier. The mailing list was honestly my last
> > > resort, because I don't like to bother people. I am simply stumped.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ethan
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 17:03 -0400, Paul D. Bain wrote:
> > >
> > >>cherif wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Hi Ethan,
> > >>>At what [step] of the installation process are you getting this error?
> > >>>Also you say [that you are] using Tomcat 4.1.27 - from Fedora Core 2  ?
> > >>>and why J2RE 1.4.2  instead of  the jdk  ([sometimes] it's better to
> use the
> > >>>jsdk) ?
> > >>
> > >> Yes, this could be the source of his difficulty. See my comment below.
> >
> > Cherif,
> >
> > What do you think? Please let us know.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Paul Bain
> >
> 
> 
> 
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