[opencms-dev] WYSIWYG editor

[GV]

I face the same problems exactly the way you describe but couldn't find any 
solution to them either :-(

On Friday 08 July 2005 02:27, Joe Desbonnet wrote:
> I just had a session with an end user of an OpenCms installation.  I
> was surprised at the number of problems I had. This was my first time
> letting an "ordinary" user near the system.
> I find these sessions very interesting because it exposes flaws that I
> would never spot myself.
>
> I know there are no easy answers to some of the issues presented here,
> but I think it's worth documenting. Most of my problems were relating
> to the  WYSIWYG editor (which I never use myself -- I always work in
> the HTML view).
>
>
> 1. Firefox, my browser of choice, is useless because I can't reliably
> paste into the WYSIWYG view. This is not an OpenCms issue: it's a
> security restriction in Firefox. Firefox directs the user to
> instructions which only an admin/experienced computer user can follow
> (see this link:
> http://www.mozilla.org/editor/midasdemo/securityprefs.html ). Even if
> you do follow these instructions it still does not work. What's
> particularlly odd is that it sometimes does work and sometimes
> doesn't. I have no idea why. Is anyone out there using Firefox for
> WYSIWYG editing?
>
> 2. Next problem: when I do manage to cut/paste successfully (eg from
> Outlook or MS Word) far to much unnecessary formatting info gets
> copied. The underlying HTML is riddled with stuff like    < p
> class="MsoNormal"> <span..> <span><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->
> <!--[endif]--><o:p /></span></p> etc etc. I have found when the
> underlying code is full of this rubbish the editor formatting tools
> (eg font size selection etc) does not work reliably. Does anyone have
> suggestions on a set of instructions I can give the end users to avoid
> this kind of problem?
>
> 3. Files prefixed with tilde (eg ~index.html).   My end user today
> clicked on "~index.html" to edit a home page. I told him that was
> wrong, but to click on "index.html" instead. He asked why these files
> appeared there. I started muttering something about "vi" and unix
> editors and quicky shut up when I realized I could not give him a
> satisfactory answer... I realize these are temporary files which
> should be removed if the editor is closed properly. But often the
> editor window is closed by killing the window and these files are left
> lying around to confuse users. Are they really necessary?
>
>
> BTW: I am not really complaining -- I think OpenCms is a great
> product. If some of these rough edges can be fixed and and the
> documenation expanded it would be a truely fantastic piece of
> software.
>
> Regards,
> Joe.
>
>
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