[opencms-dev] OpenCms Tutorial for user?
Alexandru Popescu
the_mindstorm at evolva.ro
Sat Aug 6 15:36:13 CEST 2005
#: Arash Kaffamanesh changed the world a bit at a time by saying on 8/6/2005 2:38 PM :#
>> From my pov the most important feature would be the JSR170 support.
> Another one would be multiple
>> repository support (not only db based, or fs based).
>
> I agree and I would add to the list of requiremets, that a good CMS must
> have Web-Dav and RSS support, all of these features are in planning /
> development and we are trying to get large companies to sponsor this
> process and help OpenCms developers to become more resources (more money
> == more developers) and to get the whole thing running faster and with
> better affordable documenation, training and support :-)
Afaik webdav is about versioning and locking through http protocol (or I am completely wrong). I
think jsr 170 already mention them, but not in a requirement mode.
RSS should be something that can be easily developed with good repositories, or am I wrong again?
Providing a general solution for feed generation would be a great example, but I don't think it can
fit all options.
:alex |.::the_mindstorm::.|
>
> Regards,
> Arash
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
> [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org] On Behalf Of Alexandru Popescu
> Sent: Samstag, 6. August 2005 15:03
> To: The OpenCms mailing list
> Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] OpenCms Tutorial for user?
>
>
> #: Arash Kaffamanesh changed the world a bit at a time by saying on
> 8/6/2005 1:55 PM :#
>> So to put it together, I will recommend to stick with OpenSource and
>> particularly with OpenCms, OpenCms will become in the next generation
>> JSR 170 and 168 compliant, what else do you wish to have?
>>
>
> From my pov the most important feature would be the JSR170 support.
> Another one would be multiple
> repository support (not only db based, or fs based).
>
>> The lack in OpenCms is that the documentation is not very good, but
>> you can buy excellent documenation (over 1000 pages) and training (3-5
>
>> days)for it and I think that would be a very intelligent investment
>> which reduces cost in the futute!
>>
>
> Definitely I must stay in the oss world, as we finally we have to go
> further with the system.
>
> What documentation are you talking about? Can you point me to the right
> direction? I have missed
> this part. I cannot decide yet if the training is needed as I am not
> sure yet what solution we will
> adopt, but the documentation at a reasonable price would be indeed an
> intelligen investment.
>
> :alex |.::the_mindstorm::.|
>
>> Best Regards,
>> Arash
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
>> [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org] On Behalf Of Alexandru
>> Popescu
>> Sent: Samstag, 6. August 2005 14:17
>> To: The OpenCms mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] OpenCms Tutorial for user?
>>
>>
>> #: Arash Kaffamanesh changed the world a bit at a time by saying on
>> 8/6/2005 1:15 PM :#
>>> Hi Alex,
>>>
>>> Here is a List of Questions to answer before implementing a CMS:
>>>
>>> Do you have an existing CMS deployed in your organization? Do you
>>> have currently a plan for evaluating and selecting (replacing) a CMS?
>
>>> Do you have a timeline for implementing a CMS? Which short- and
>>> long-terms goals are going to be achieved through a CMS?
>>> How many knowledge workers are involved in the evaluation process?
>>> Which roles (editors, approvers, publishers) are involved to take a
>>> decision?
>>> How many employees are going to use your CMS?
>>> Do you need a LDAP, MS ADS Interface?
>>> What kind of CMS are you going to implement (for Intranet, Internet,
>>> Extranet)?
>>> How many websites are going to manage with your CMS?
>>> How many languages shall your website provide to your visitors?
>>> Do you have to implement a workflow with your CMS?
>>> Shall your CMS be e-Commerce enabled?
>>> Which types of (structured) content are going to be published
> (events,
>>> press releases, eForms, FAQ's?
>>> How frequently does these types of content be updated?
>>> Shall other Web Applications be integrated into your CMS?
>>> Which output formats shall your CMS support (PDF, XML, WML)?
>>> Shall your CMS support sitemaps to be generated automatically?
>>> Shall your CMS support automatic menu navigation?
>>> Shall your CMS support publishing reports?
>>> Shall your CMS provide document management functionalities (e.g.
>> storage
>>> retrieval, regularity, or search in word, visio, autocad, etc. docs)?
>
>>> Shall your CMS support compliance as a process (that's the functional
>
>>> requirements of laws, regulations and records management)? Shall your
>
>>> CMS support Output management (automatic printing and archiving)?
>>> Shall your CMS be managed / hosted internally or externally by a
> third
>>> party?
>>> Do you have programmers in house?
>>> Shall your CMS support multilingual websites?
>>> Shall your CMS provide spell checking?
>>> Shall your CMS be able to accept content via email?
>>> Shall your CMS provide an Interface to ERP or CRM systems?
>>> Shall your Content Repository conform to JSR 170 standard?
>>> Shall your CMS support dynamic image resizing?
>>> Shall your CMS provide a Voting Module?
>>> Shall your CMS provide advanced search capabilities?
>>> Shall your CMS provide an Interface to (a) Payment Card Gateway(s)?
>>> Are you planning to integrate blogs into your portal?
>>> Are you planning to integrate Webservices, SOA, BPEL?
>>> Which technology do you prefere or have to continue with, JAVA, .NET,
>>> others?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Arash
>>>
>>
>> This is a very good list of questions and I have to confess that it is
>
>> longer than mine. Now considering you should adopt on of the existing
>> solutions (and maybe plug more functionality by your own) you can
>> imagine how hard an evaluation is done without the tutorial we were
>> talking about ;-).
>>
>> :alex |.::the_mindstorm::.|
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
>>> [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org] On Behalf Of Alexandru
>>> Popescu
>>> Sent: Samstag, 6. August 2005 13:48
>>> To: The OpenCms mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] OpenCms Tutorial for user?
>>>
>>>
>>> #: Arash Kaffamanesh changed the world a bit at a time by saying on
>>> 8/6/2005 12:46 PM :#
>>>> Cheers :alex,
>>>>
>>>> You wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would like to find out a step-by-step or user manual how to set
>>>>> up a
>>>> full blown new site. While
>>>>> experimenting with different functionalities is kindda keen, I
>>>>> still
>>>> don't have an overall picture.
>>>>> Yes, I agree this is also because I never used a cms product, but I
>>>> think an intro would be welcomed.
>>>>
>>>> Ok. I will try to write a step-by-step user manual for setting up a
>>>> "full blown new site" with OpenCms. Before doing that, I would
>> suggest
>>>
>>>> to register your OpenCms Demo Account on our site at:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.pomegranate.de/opencms/opencms/en/emailform
>>>>
>>>> After the registeration process, you will get your account data and
>>>> can beginn to play with the installation on our site to become
>>>> familiar with OpenCms and have an idea what a CM system is and in
>>>> particular how OpenCms supports the content management process for
>>>> building 1st class websites and intranet document management
>>>> systems.
>>>>
>>>> But for now you can go to News&Links --> CMS Links on our site,
>>>> where you can find several Links to other CMS resources, e.g what is
>
>>>> a CMS?
>>>>
>>>> We provide also OpenCms Shared and Dedicated Hosting Services for
>>>> SME's and individuals for an affordable price wit free email support
>
>>>> and a forum to discuss any OpenCms / Portal / CMS needs:
>>>> http://www.pomegranate.de:9000/cms/forum/index
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward to your feedback.
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>> Arash
>>>>
>>>> www.pomegranate.de
>>>> OpenCms Hosting Solutions
>>>>
>>>
>>> Many thanks Arash. It is indeed a nice offer. I have setted an
>>> OpenCMS
>>
>>> distro on my laptop so I assume I would like to play with it here
>>> (this will allow me to check the db, and make a lot of
>>> tweaks around ;-)).
>>>
>>> Definitely I will take a look at the links. I do have knowledge about
>>> what a cms solution should provide and moreover I think I have better
>
>>> knowledge of what I would like to have ;-). However, the
>>> cms market seems very different and the approaches are quite
> different
>>> (f.e. I have spent the last
>>> few weeks looking at OpenCMS, Magnolia and LifeRay, every of them
>>> offering a completely different
>>> approach).
>>>
>>> One of the common points however is the lack of this step-by-step
>>> guide ;-). It will provide a new user with an improved starting time,
>
>>> so as you may guess for the user it will be much more easier to
>>> decide for a solution. I don't think this overlaps with the
>> professional
>>> (payed) services almost all
>>> CMS providers are offering, but rather would help gain more and more
>>> users.
>>>
>>> these are my .02 euroc,
>>> :alex |.::the_mindstorm::.|
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
>>>> [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org] On Behalf Of Alexandru
>>>> Popescu
>>>> Sent: Samstag, 6. August 2005 12:43
>>>> To: The OpenCms mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] OpenCms Tutorial for user?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> #: Arash Kaffamanesh changed the world a bit at a time by saying on
>>>> 8/6/2005 10:27 AM :#
>>>>> Hi Lee,
>>>>>
>>>>> For editors, this could be a good starting point (work in
>>>>> progress):
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.pomegranate.de/en/OpenSource/OpenCMS/OpenCMS-OnlineHelp.
>>>>> h
>>>>> t
>>>>> m
>>>>> l
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have other questions or suggestions to improve this
>>>>> document,
>>
>>>>> feel free to ask.
>>>>>
>>>>> And if you are going to create your own templates, you shall read
>>>>> through Alkacon Documentation and post your questions on this list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>> Arash
>>>>>
>>>>> www.pomegranate.de
>>>>> OpenCms Hosting Solutions
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would like to find out a step-by-step or user manual how to set up
>>>> a
>>>
>>>> full blown new site. While experimenting with different
>>>> functionalities is kindda keen, I still don't have an overall
>> picture.
>>>> Yes, I agree this is also because I never used a cms product, but I
>>>> think an intro would be welcomed.
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>>
>>>> :alex |.::the_mindstorm::.|
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
>>>>> [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org] On Behalf Of Lee
>>>>> Sent: Samstag, 6. August 2005 10:17
>>>>> To: opencms-dev at opencms.org
>>>>> Subject: [opencms-dev] OpenCms Tutorial for user?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm new to this list and OpenCms at all, is there any tutorial
>>>>> available for newbies for a quick start?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Lee
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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