AW: [opencms-dev] consistent user interface for OpenCms

[Kai Schliemann]

Hi Michael, hi Joe, hi list,

thanks a lot for your response.
> > UI suggestion: when an icon or menu item is unavailable ("grayed
> > out"), give an explanation as to why it is not available ("locked",
> > "insufficient privilege", etc).
>   Normally you get such a description on the left in the help box.

This approach is great.
In this case, I assume, Joe is talking about the explorer view. For example
the "publish project" icon in the online project does not show any tooltip
or help text. Whereas it does in the offline project.
This is an example of what we would like to improve.

>
> > > For example OpenCms uses 3 different "delete"-icons. Two
> different even in
> > > one dialog (Account management --> User Management).
>   Our approach is to 'try' that in such cases where the same
> functionally is
> offered in the same list as 'SingleAction' and as 'MultiAction',
> is to use the
> same icon in different colors.

OK, this is what I thought what your intention was. We for sure have to
talk/discuss such issues.

>
> Kai: when you say 'we', what do you really mean?

By saying 'we', I am talking about our company (comundus) together with
Alkacon and the community. Wheras we do not mind to do the most part of the
work.
This could work as follows:
1. comundus collects improvement suggestions from the community and Alkacon
(and of course their own).
2. comundus creates a concept for the improvement of the OpenCms UI.
3. sending the concept to Alkacon/the mailing list for review.
4. after finishing the final concept, starting to implement it (after you
(Alkacon) told us what would be the best way to do so).
5. all being happy to have a more user friendly OpenCms. Where the stress
lies on "more", because it already is.

I hope I could clarify a little bit what our intention is.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Regards

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Kai Schliemann

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>
> --
> Regards
> Michael Moossen
>
> Alkacon Software GmbH - The OpenCms Experts
> http://www.alkacon.com
>
>
> Quoting Joe Desbonnet <jdesbonnet at gmail.com>:
>
> > UI suggestion: when an icon or menu item is unavailable ("grayed
> > out"), give an explanation as to why it is not available ("locked",
> > "insufficient privilege", etc).
> >
> > This could be by way of a "title" tag in the icon image which is
> > implemeted as a "tool tip" in many browsers.
> >
> > Joe.
> >
> > On 11/30/05, Kai Schliemann <k.schliemann at comundus.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi list, hi Alkacon,
> > >
> > > as we work with OpenCms for quite a while now, we experienced
> every now
> > and
> > > then slightly inconsistencies in the user interface.
> > > For example OpenCms uses 3 different "delete"-icons. Two
> different even in
> > > one dialog (Account management --> User Management). The same
> icon in two
> > > colours.
> > > The third one is in the database export dialog.
> > >
> > > OpenCms's usability improved a lot in version 6 but could be better.
> > > Therefore we are right now working on a concept for a consistent
> > > look-and-feel of OpenCms.
> > >
> > > We would like to contribute this concept and of course the
> implementation
> > to
> > > the community, respectively to the OpenCms core.
> > >
> > > We invite everybody to help us, to improve OpenCms in this
> matter and to
> > > send suggestions for improvement to the mailing list.
> > >
> > > If you guys from Alkacon (or anyone else) already have plans
> to work on
> > this
> > > matter we are willingly ready to help. Just let us know. If
> not, please
> > tell
> > > us, how we can contribute.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kai Schliemann
> > >
> > >
> > >
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