[opencms-dev] Best practices for multilanguage site

[Yves Glodt]

Thank you Carl, I guess I'll go with folder-per-locale, maybe with use of some 
siblings.

have a nice day,
Yves

On Wednesday 27 February 2008, Claus Priisholm wrote:
> I've done a number of multilingual sites and there are pros and cons of
> the various methodologies. But the folder-per-locale is my preferred one
> because of its flexibility.
>
> If you skip the folder-per-locale you are working against the default
> behaviour of OpenCms. There are workarounds on the mailing list but the
> most obvious problem is that the properties on a file aren't
> localizable. Also, as you mention, you are forced to publish all locales
> for a given file at the same time.
>
> If you use folder-per-locale then you have an option in either using
> siblings or plain copies of the files. You can even have distinct folder
> structures for each site, but then you loose the option to, easily, have
> a "link" between the same pages in the different language-folders. If
> you are using siblings you could still have that link assuming that you
> don't use siblings for anything else (than making localized "copies" of
> pages).
>
> Siblings, of course, also suffer from the "it's all one file" publishing
> problem, but adds the convenience that you can edit content for multiple
> languages from within the editor and it is easier to keep track of
> localized "copies".
>
> But with the folder-per-locale you have the option, and I have set up
> sites that uses either copies or siblings, or a combination depending on
> the organisations needs.
>
> Whether you want to implement the folder-per-locale by means of
> "sub-folders" as /en/, /da/ and so forth or you go for a multi-site
> setup again depends on the requirements. If you have only one domain,
> then you won't get far with the multi-site setup, but if you have a
> domain for each language (e.g. www.codedroids.com for english and
> www.codedroids.dk for danish) you could choose multi-site setup. But you
> can also serve multiple domains from within one site (which is actually
> what happens with the codedroids-site) - then you should do the
> domain-trickery in apache (assuming you have a typical setup running
> tomcat behind apache).
>
> /Claus
>
> Yves Glodt wrote:
> > On Thursday 21 February 2008, Carl Alex Friis Nielsen wrote:
> >> If you retain the same naming in the two structures you can easily
> >> compute the links between the different language versions of the same
> >> page - thats how we do it. - same name, but localised title
> >
> > Hello Carl,
> >
> > I agree with this and this is what I was thinking to do for my project.
> > But I just read in the OpenCms 6.0 Book that keeping an (e.g.) /dk/
> > and /en/ structure is "deprecated"...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > So, the alternative I see is an site with no subdirs per language, but
> > with multilanguage documents.
> >
> > The inconvenience I see with this is that (afaics) if you edit a
> > document in english and in danish separately, you cannot publish just
> > one part of it, since the document is the same.
> >
> > In my case I need to publish german separately from english, this is why
> > I think I will go with /en/ and /de/ structures.
> >
> > I would be happy to hear about some more experience,
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Yves
> >
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
> >>> [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org]On Behalf Of Yves Glodt
> >>> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 10:38 AM
> >>> To: opencms-dev at opencms.org
> >>> Subject: [opencms-dev] Best practices for multilanguage site
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> what would be the best practices for creating a large
> >>> multilanguage website
> >>> with OpenCms?
> >>>
> >>> The language should be selectable from every page, without
> >>> navigating you away
> >>> from the currently selected content.
> >>>
> >>> I have seen some sites created folders for the language in
> >>> the root of their
> >>> folder structure, like e.g.:
> >>>
> >>> /sites/siteA/en/index.html
> >>> /sites/siteA/en/aboutus/index.html
> >>>
> >>> /sites/siteA/de/index.html
> >>> /sites/siteA/de/ueberuns/index.html
> >>>
> >>> is this a good idea? Is there any better idea? :-)
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Yves
> >>>
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