[opencms-dev] flag not to publish

Krenn, Christian christian.krenn at bearingpoint.com
Thu Jun 5 11:01:09 CEST 2008


No, it's not about disabling, just let the logic win and make the administrator permission-configurable. ;)

Or what else could be plausible solution to prevent an administrator to publish/export a specific folder/file? 

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From: opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org] On Behalf Of Schliemann, Kai
Sent: Donnerstag, 05. Juni 2008 10:51
To: The OpenCms mailing list
Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] flag not to publish

Hi Michael,
Thanks for the confirmation. Nevertheless, I have to agree with David. Maybe you can - for one of the next versions - keep this in mind and disable the change permission feature for Adminstrators. That would be very nice.

I hope you don't mind, that I put the information you wrote on the OpenCms wiki?

Regards
Kai

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org] Im Auftrag von Michael Moossen
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Juni 2008 09:57
An: The OpenCms mailing list
Betreff: Re: [opencms-dev] flag not to publish

Hi David!

this is not a bug, it is the intended behavior.
administrators are allowed to do everything, and all permission checks are ignored. this is important also to have in mind, when testing a new feature/configuration...

Kind regards,
Michael

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David Trattnig wrote:
> Hi Kay,
> 
> IMHO it breaks the "principle of least surprise". When I have the 
> possibility to disable direct publish on a folder for the Admin user 
> and it's published anyway it's a bit irritating in my opinion. The 
> admin could change the permission back anyway to have full rights on 
> the folder again. Bug?
> 
> Rgds
> David
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Schliemann, Kai 
> <K.Schliemann at comundus.com <mailto:K.Schliemann at comundus.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi Christian,
>     hm, interesting. Maybe it is a problem with the administrator
>     (role). I can somehow recall that an Administrator can do all and
>     everything. No matter how the permissions are set.
>     I am not sure. Probably somebody else can confirm that?
>      
>     HTH
>      
>     Regards
>     Kai
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>     [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
>     <mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org>] *Im Auftrag von *Krenn,
>     Christian
>     *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 4. Juni 2008 10:32
> 
>     *An:* The OpenCms mailing list
>     *Betreff:* Re: [opencms-dev] flag not to publish
> 
>     Hi kai!
> 
>     In version 6.xx, opencms ceases publishing if a subelement is not
>     allowed to be published.
> 
>     In version 7.0.4, when I derive from a "Administrator" and adapt the
>     Role for the specific role, it is ignored.
> 
>     I also tried to adapt the opencms-importexport.xml to set the folder
>     immutable to be not exported, but subfolders are still exported ;(
> 
>     
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>     <mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org>] *On Behalf Of *Schliemann, Kai
>     *Sent:* Dienstag, 03. Juni 2008 09:54
>     *To:* The OpenCms mailing list
>     *Subject:* Re: [opencms-dev] flag not to publish
> 
>     Hi Christian,
> 
>     maybe there is an other solution.
> 
>     If you work with permissions, you can "not allow" publishing for all
>     users in the system for that subfolder.
> 
>     Never tried it, but this should work as well.
> 
>     Regards Kai
> 
>     
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>     *Von:* opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
>     <mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org>
>     [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
>     <mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org>] *Im Auftrag von *Krenn,
>     Christian
>     *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 3. Juni 2008 09:37
>     *An:* The OpenCms mailing list
>     *Betreff:* Re: [opencms-dev] flag not to publish
> 
>     Yes, but it is no permanent solution. I'd like to declare a
>     subfolder to be not published permanently.
> 
>     
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>     *From:* opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
>     <mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org>
>     [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
>     <mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org>] *On Behalf Of *Carl Alex
>     Friis Nielsen
>     *Sent:* Dienstag, 03. Juni 2008 09:28
>     *To:* The OpenCms mailing list
>     *Subject:* Re: [opencms-dev] flag not to publish
> 
>     You can use locking to prevent resources from being published.
> 
>         -----Original Message-----
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>         [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
>         <mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org>]*On Behalf Of *Krenn,
>         Christian
>         *Sent:* Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:22 AM
>         *To:* opencms-dev at opencms.org <mailto:opencms-dev at opencms.org>
>         *Subject:* [opencms-dev] flag not to publish
> 
>         Hi!
> 
>         Is there a possibility to set a folder to be not published? I
>         know the capability of setting export to false, but it doesn't
>         help me.
> 
>         Thanks in advance.
> 
>         Best wishes
> 
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