[opencms-dev] Ftpd module: my usage and proposed improvements

[Massimo Zallocco]

Hi Ruben,

I'm definetively interested in experimenting the FTPD module. Is it  
possible for you to send it via email?

If you like I can host the software and the few pages describing it.  
Let me know if you need any help.

Ciao
Massimo Zallocco


Il giorno 19/set/06, alle ore 23:26, ruben malchow ha scritto:

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> hello allesandro,
>
> sorry for the inconvenience with the server - i don't know when it  
> will be online again, because we will have to set it up from  
> scratch, and don't have much time right now. still, i will send the  
> module to anyone who asks, and also i would appreciate it if  
> someone could put it on their webserver for the time being.
>
> anyway. now for the other stuff. i have looked into webdav, and my  
> impression was that - apart from the locking bit - it has no real  
> advantages over ftp. what client would you use? and ftp client is  
> available for every freaking platform in the world, even for my  
> mobile (which is >3 years old). and also, the one real bonus i can  
> imagine would be proper file creation (with types and whatnot),  
> proper handling of siblings and properties.
>
> actually, i am working on a more generic way of accessing the vfs:  
> a webservice, which could then be integrated with eclipse, which  
> would be my absolute favorite. but i am not good when it comes to  
> gui stuff, and really got a bit scared when i had a glance at the  
> eclipse plugin structure. it really is quite complex, and i would  
> need a week or two to really get into it.
>
> there is, however, an eclipse plugin written by some guy from  
> finland (i think) that does not use ftp, but launches an entire  
> opencms instance within eclipse, and then connects directly to the  
> db. i think this approach has a few major drawbacks, especially  
> when it comes to working with more than one developer. however, you  
> might want to check it out:
>
> OpenCmsVFS - http://www.laughingpanda.org/mediawiki/index.php/ 
> OpenCmsVFS
> Jira - http://www.laughingpanda.org/jira/browse/OPENCMSVFS
>
> i think it might be great to combine the eclipse plugin and a  
> webservice into one thing. the thing with the eclipse ftp plugin is  
> that has a few major bugs (at least in 3.1, haven't work with it  
> since 3.2 came out), especially the fact that it keeps forgetting  
> its authentication, but i found it quite possible to work around  
> this without much hassle. but it's also true that saving directly  
> to the server without having to press the sync button would be  
> nice. although there are some text editors out there that have a  
> "save to ftp" function (i think ultraedit has it).
>
> how many of you would find webdav an improvement? and: has anyone  
> ever worked with it? i never did, and i wonder if there are clients  
> that support browsing opening and saving directly through webdav.  
> it think the protocol itself shouldn't be a problem, there are  
> libraries out there to handle that - one would only need to write  
> the part between webdav and the vfs.
>
> ruben
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> Alessandro Magnolo schrieb:
>> Hi Ruben (developer of ftpd module),
>>
>> I hadn't had a chance to thank you for the module yet, so I thought
>> that my previous reply was a good opportunity to do it. :)
>>
>> I use your module in conjunction with an ftp client that constantly
>> monitor the currently open file for changes, and uploads it
>> automatically when it detects a change. This way I can edit jsp pages
>> much quicker and in my favourite editor, while instantaneously see
>> them in action.
>>
>> I find that the native "synchronization" feature of opencms is
>> cumbersome and unreliable.
>>
>> Lastly, I think that a webdav module would be even more practical. I
>> don't know the webdav protocol details, but if it made it possible to
>> open more than one file at once (and monitor the changes for  
>> automatic
>> upload), that would be perfect. :)
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Alessandro Magnolo
>>
>> p.s.: I was sending this privately to Ruben, but I think the
>> discussion could prove useful in the list
>>
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