[opencms-dev] openCMS workflow - Please help!

David Trattnig david.trattnig at gmail.com
Fri Feb 8 09:30:29 CET 2008 

Hello Viki,

sorry for the late response - have been quite busy.

>I tried logging via Approval and Review group users, but it failed log-in.

The reason for that is you haven't set the roles for these users
allowing to do Workplace operations. At least you have to set the
roles "Workplace user" & "Workplace manager". And maybe you also have
to check the flag "Project User Group" within your OpenCms group
configuration.

According to your information you gave I can't really say what's
wrong. But I have to say that I've found an issue regarding Non-Admin
users. I've fixed that and released as v0.4.2:
https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=180314

Best Regards
David


On Jan 25, 2008 10:03 AM, David Trattnig <david.trattnig at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Viki,
>
> thank you for sharing the details. At first glance everything looks okay.
> I'll run through your scenario mid of next week with a blank OpenCms 7
> instance.
>
> Some notes:
>
>
>  >I tried logging via Approval and Review group users, but it failed log-in.
> I reckon you've set the wrong parent groups/roles for these groups. Try to
> use "users" as parent groups.
>
>
> >So i thought to do whole scenario using "Admin" id.
> Performing these steps with admin should work always, regardless which
> configuration you have
>
> >selected "Review" project and saw that only this xml content is highlighted
> and rest all are gray. Used "Admin" user
>  This behaviour is indented. You can only edit resources which belong to the
> current project. If you have the rights to switch to the project the
> resource belongs to, you can edit the resource there anyway.
>
> One last thing: When you are editing the project details for
> Offline/Approval/Review there is a section "Content / Resources:" - which
> setting do you have there?
>
> Hope I can come back with more information during next week
> David
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 24, 2008 4:49 PM, Vikrama Sanjeeva <viki.sanjeeva at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi David,
> >
> > * created 2 projects (Approval, Review) and used "Offline" as a 3rd
> project for Authoring/Creating content.
> > * created 3 user groups (Approval, Review, Author)
> > * created 3 users, one for each group above.
> > * added workflow2 stages from 0-2.
> > * there was a ready made content of my self defined xml type which I
> created via "Admin" user.
> > * I right clicked that xml content and send it for "Review". Used "Admin"
> user
> > * selected "Review" project and saw that only this xml content is
> highlighed and rest all are gray. Used "Admin" user
> > * on right clicking this highlighted xml content and "empty bar"
> displayed.
> >
> > Thats all!
> >
> > I tried logging via Approval and Review group users, but it failed log-in.
> So i thought to do whole scenario using "Admin" id.
> >
> > I am still interested in achieveing this simple scenario from opencms
> workplace using "Workflow2".
> >
> > Bye,
> > Viki.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 24, 2008 6:29 PM, David Trattnig <david.trattnig at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Viki,
> > >
> > > I've tried to reconstruct your scenario, but I'm not sure about some
> conditions:
> > >
> > > * Which user (+group +roles) are you using for these operations? Admin?
> > > * Was it always the same user?
> > > * Which resource type have you moved to project review?
> > > * "I found nothing. Means menu is empty. " - Is there at least an empty
> (small) gray bar or is there really nothing at all?
> > > * Projects assignments: What's the project manager group (I've got
> "Administrators")? What's the users group (I've got "Users")
> > > * Which project resource assignments? I've got "/" for all projects.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > David
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2008/1/23 Vikrama Sanjeeva <viki.sanjeeva at gmail.com >:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi David,
> > > >
> > > >      I'd installed Worfkow2 and created the projects, groups and users
> as you said in your email. Then I went to explorer view and selected one
> content. On right clicking the content, I found Approve/Reject option, on
> selecting it, I sent the content for Review. Then I selected Review from
> Project and found the same content highlighted there. Rest all other
> contents are grey BUT not disabled. Please note that, when i right clicked
> the highlighted content, i found nothing. Means menu is empty.
> > > >
> > > >     How to proceed further? Am I missing something? As of now, am
> interested in achieving "Approval Process" functionality from within the
> OpenCMS Workplace. I want to know how exactly Approval Process works using
> OpenCMS_Workflow2.
> > > >
> > > > Kindly advise further.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Bye,
> > > > Viki.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Jan 23, 2008 5:39 PM, David Trattnig <david.trattnig at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > @Huy Tran: Thank you for the input. Yes, you have a point there - it
> may be more comfortable when the user could approve/reject directly in the
> website preview or inside the FCK editor. I've chosen the FCK Editor
> approach for my previous workflow implementation. Maybe I'll add this
> feature to the current one anytime later but keep in mind this is just more
> a UI thing. Wherever you initiate your approval process you have to
> implement some logic for managing workflow states in every case. And that's
> the major amount of work.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would be very interested how you have realised the different
> workflow states in detail? Does it also perform permission modifications?
> Would be happy if you have some more input/ideas for me.
> > > > >
> > > > > @Viki: Sorry, currently you can just approve/reject via the
> workplace context menu. If you want you can add these functionalities
> yourself and contribute ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > @Alkakon: I'm wondering why my mails are alway boucing back (see
> below, opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org)?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > David
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jan 23, 2008 8:17 AM, Vikrama Sanjeeva <viki.sanjeeva at gmail.com >
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > David, I have downloaded the full-package
> (OpenCms_Workflow2_v0.4.1_full-package.zip ~ 4.73MB ).  I will install it.
> However, as Huy Tran said, I am also looking to achieve this functionality
> out of workplace. Means, a toolbar will be there right on website which will
> allow customers to create/edit/publish contents using pre defined customize
> process. Lets say it "Approval Process".
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   Could this be done via "OpenCms_Workflow2" ? OR as Huy Tran
> said, I will have to develop the Approval Process manually using OpenCMS
> API?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   This is the time for me to decide the right approach for my
> requirement. I will appreciate any guidence/help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bye,
> > > > > > Viki.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2008/1/23 <HuyTran at c-mg.net>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think this is very good. I first came up with the same ideas
> but our customers who is Reviewers and Approvers don't want to work in the
> workplace, they want to use a toolbar on the page itself to approve or
> reject the pages. So if your customer feel easy to work in the workplace, I
> think this is the best solution.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Good lucks.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Huy Tran
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ________________________________
>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
> [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org] On Behalf Of David Trattnig
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 11:57 PM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: The OpenCms mailing list
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] openCMS workflow - Please help!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Viki
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > * user A created a content
> > > > > > > > * content went for to user B.
> > > > > > > > * user B either Rejects or Approves content
> > > > > > > > * if B approves, it went to C
> > > > > > > > * Finally C publishes the content
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would say that's the main functionality of the OpenCms
> Workflow2 Module which can be found here
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=180314 (Download the
> latest full package version). As you don't need advanced workflow features I
> reckon this workflow implementation fits best for you. Especially you don't
> need to modify/rebuild the OpenCms core as Huy Tran suggested and
> configuration is very easy.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > First of all you've to create three projects for the three types
> of users A, B and C and assign these users (respectively their usergroups)
> to the projects (I've named the projects "Offline", which is already
> available, "Review" and "Approval"). Don't forget to assign all three
> projects to the same directory ("/", root suggested).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Then go on with the quick installation guide:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Import the commons, springmanager and workflow2 module via
> OpenCms module import mechanism.
> > > > > > > Copy opencms-workplace.xml to %OPENCMS_DIR%\WEB-INF\config\
> (replace current configuration)
> > > > > > > Restart your server.
> > > > > > > As a final step you have to create your workflow inside the
> workflow administration panel of OpenCms. Voilá!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That's all. The Workflow2 Module automatically uses the OpenCms
> DB connection without configuration. If you need advanced DB configuration
> have a look at readme.txt inside the distribution package. In case of
> problems just leave me a message.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Have fun
> > > > > > > David
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2008/1/22 Vikrama Sanjeeva <viki.sanjeeva at gmail.com>:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks all. Well, i am least interested in doing all the
> manually using openCMS API. However, I am now looking for free workflow
> engines for openCMS. The is the decision time for us as we are going to
> build client's website on openCMS and providing functinalities of workflow
> like the one i mentioned in my 1st post.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   Which opencms-workflow engine is more mature? In terms of less
> bugs, easy to use and providing basic workflow functionalities?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here are two which I know. One is by Mr. Shi Yusen
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1: OpenCms-jBPM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2: Bearingpoint-OpenCms-Modules Commons
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please help me in selecting suitable workflow engine for
> openCMS?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bye,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Viki.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Jan 21, 2008 9:43 PM, Shi Yusen <shiys at langhua.cn> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Perhaps you can try our free OpenCms-jBPM module. It's here:
> > > > > > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/jbpm-opencms/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Shi Yusen/Beijing Langhua Ltd.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 在 2008-01-21一的 17:24 +0300 ，Vikrama Sanjeeva写道：
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi ALL,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >   This is urgent question and am looking for help and guidence
> in this
> > > > > > > > regard.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is below workflow achievable using openCMS?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > * user A created a content
> > > > > > > > * content went for to user B.
> > > > > > > > * user B either Rejects or Approves content
> > > > > > > > * if B approves, it went to C
> > > > > > > > * Finally C publishes the content
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > this is simple workflow. Please tell me how I can achieve this
> > > > > > > > workflow in openCMS?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Bye,
> > > > > > > > Viki.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > > This mail is sent to you from the opencms-dev mailing list
> > > > > > > > To change your list options, or to unsubscribe from the list,
> please visit
> > > > > > > > http://lists.opencms.org/mailman/listinfo/opencms-dev
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > This mail is sent to you from the opencms-dev mailing list
> > > > > > > To change your list options, or to unsubscribe from the list,
> please visit
> > > > > > > http://lists.opencms.org/mailman/listinfo/opencms-dev
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > This mail is sent to you from the opencms-dev mailing list
> > > > > > > To change your list options, or to unsubscribe from the list,
> please visit
> > > > > > > http://lists.opencms.org/mailman/listinfo/opencms-dev
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > This mail is sent to you from the opencms-dev mailing list
> > > > > > > To change your list options, or to unsubscribe from the list,
> please visit
> > > > > > > http://lists.opencms.org/mailman/listinfo/opencms-dev
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > This mail is sent to you from the opencms-dev mailing list
> > > > > > To change your list options, or to unsubscribe from the list,
> please visit
> > > > > > http://lists.opencms.org/mailman/listinfo/opencms-dev
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > This mail is sent to you from the opencms-dev mailing list
> > > > > To change your list options, or to unsubscribe from the list, please
> visit
> > > > > http://lists.opencms.org/mailman/listinfo/opencms-dev
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > This mail is sent to you from the opencms-dev mailing list
> > > > To change your list options, or to unsubscribe from the list, please
> visit
> > > > http://lists.opencms.org/mailman/listinfo/opencms-dev
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > >
> > > This mail is sent to you from the opencms-dev mailing list
> > > To change your list options, or to unsubscribe from the list, please
> visit
> > > http://lists.opencms.org/mailman/listinfo/opencms-dev
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This mail is sent to you from the opencms-dev mailing list
> > To change your list options, or to unsubscribe from the list, please visit
> > http://lists.opencms.org/mailman/listinfo/opencms-dev
> >

More information about the opencms-dev mailing list