[opencms-dev] flag not to publish

Michael Moossen m.moossen at alkacon.com
Thu Jun 5 11:03:42 CEST 2008


Hi Kai!

 > I hope you don't mind, that I put the information you wrote on the
 > OpenCms wiki?
of course not.

Kind regards,
Michael

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Schliemann, Kai wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> Thanks for the confirmation. Nevertheless, I have to agree with David. Maybe you can - for one of the next versions - keep this in mind and disable the change permission feature for Adminstrators. That would be very nice.
> 
> I hope you don't mind, that I put the information you wrote on the OpenCms wiki?
> 
> Regards
> Kai
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org] Im Auftrag von Michael Moossen
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Juni 2008 09:57
> An: The OpenCms mailing list
> Betreff: Re: [opencms-dev] flag not to publish
> 
> Hi David!
> 
> this is not a bug, it is the intended behavior.
> administrators are allowed to do everything, and all permission checks are ignored. this is important also to have in mind, when testing a new feature/configuration...
> 
> Kind regards,
> Michael
> 
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> 
> David Trattnig wrote:
>> Hi Kay,
>>
>> IMHO it breaks the "principle of least surprise". When I have the 
>> possibility to disable direct publish on a folder for the Admin user 
>> and it's published anyway it's a bit irritating in my opinion. The 
>> admin could change the permission back anyway to have full rights on 
>> the folder again. Bug?
>>
>> Rgds
>> David
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Schliemann, Kai 
>> <K.Schliemann at comundus.com <mailto:K.Schliemann at comundus.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Christian,
>>     hm, interesting. Maybe it is a problem with the administrator
>>     (role). I can somehow recall that an Administrator can do all and
>>     everything. No matter how the permissions are set.
>>     I am not sure. Probably somebody else can confirm that?
>>      
>>     HTH
>>      
>>     Regards
>>     Kai
>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     *Von:* opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
>>     <mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org>
>>     [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
>>     <mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org>] *Im Auftrag von *Krenn,
>>     Christian
>>     *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 4. Juni 2008 10:32
>>
>>     *An:* The OpenCms mailing list
>>     *Betreff:* Re: [opencms-dev] flag not to publish
>>
>>     Hi kai!
>>
>>     In version 6.xx, opencms ceases publishing if a subelement is not
>>     allowed to be published.
>>
>>     In version 7.0.4, when I derive from a "Administrator" and adapt the
>>     Role for the specific role, it is ignored.
>>
>>     I also tried to adapt the opencms-importexport.xml to set the folder
>>     immutable to be not exported, but subfolders are still exported ;(
>>
>>     
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> --
>>
>>     *From:* opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
>>     <mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org>
>>     [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
>>     <mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org>] *On Behalf Of *Schliemann, Kai
>>     *Sent:* Dienstag, 03. Juni 2008 09:54
>>     *To:* The OpenCms mailing list
>>     *Subject:* Re: [opencms-dev] flag not to publish
>>
>>     Hi Christian,
>>
>>     maybe there is an other solution.
>>
>>     If you work with permissions, you can "not allow" publishing for all
>>     users in the system for that subfolder.
>>
>>     Never tried it, but this should work as well.
>>
>>     Regards Kai
>>
>>     
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> --
>>
>>     *Von:* opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
>>     <mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org>
>>     [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
>>     <mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org>] *Im Auftrag von *Krenn,
>>     Christian
>>     *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 3. Juni 2008 09:37
>>     *An:* The OpenCms mailing list
>>     *Betreff:* Re: [opencms-dev] flag not to publish
>>
>>     Yes, but it is no permanent solution. I'd like to declare a
>>     subfolder to be not published permanently.
>>
>>     
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>
>>     *From:* opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
>>     <mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org>
>>     [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
>>     <mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org>] *On Behalf Of *Carl Alex
>>     Friis Nielsen
>>     *Sent:* Dienstag, 03. Juni 2008 09:28
>>     *To:* The OpenCms mailing list
>>     *Subject:* Re: [opencms-dev] flag not to publish
>>
>>     You can use locking to prevent resources from being published.
>>
>>         -----Original Message-----
>>         *From:* opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
>>         <mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org>
>>         [mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org
>>         <mailto:opencms-dev-bounces at opencms.org>]*On Behalf Of *Krenn,
>>         Christian
>>         *Sent:* Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:22 AM
>>         *To:* opencms-dev at opencms.org <mailto:opencms-dev at opencms.org>
>>         *Subject:* [opencms-dev] flag not to publish
>>
>>         Hi!
>>
>>         Is there a possibility to set a folder to be not published? I
>>         know the capability of setting export to false, but it doesn't
>>         help me.
>>
>>         Thanks in advance.
>>
>>         Best wishes
>>
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